The following is an in-depth interview I conducted with Deadron late last week. The band conformed all of their answers during a practice as we discussed their upcoming full-length, the Along With Ghosts EP from earlier this year as well as the awesome new Deadron Cover Series. Enjoy! -Aaron
Aaron: I guess first off, since not all of our readers will be totally familiar with the lineup, who plays what in the band? Deadron: Ron Oxley sings, Andy Golz sings and plays guitar, Marley Van Raalte plays guitar, Brendan Carter plays bass and Zach Peterson plays drums! Aaron: Awesome, thanks so much. So first, I have to admit- Along With Ghosts was my introduction to Deadron (formerly Tarantulahawk). I obviously enjoyed it quite a bit and I think it was a good place to start, but can you tell me if you had any other releases under the Tarantulahawk name? Deadron: Thank you! Yes, we released a split with our friends in Cardinal entitled “…Happy Again.” it’s available on Still Here Record’s Bandcamp. Aaron: Is Still Here a local label? Dearon: Yes, it is actually owned by our drummer, Zach! Aaron: That’s awesome! Alongside Deadron and Cardinal, are there any other labelmates? Would fans of Deadron generally enjoy Still Here releases because of a certain vibe, or do the artists vary distinctly in sound? Deadron: The only other bands on Still Here are Victory Verdun, From the Mire and Hear This. Victory is a revival emo band and Hear This is a hardcore punk band (since broken up). The only thing all the bands on Still Here really have in common are that we are all friends. Otherwise, the sound very distinctly varies throughout the bands. I think if people are open minded and just enjoy good music, they can find a lot of good music on our label. Aaron: Okay, so there’s definitely still an incentive for fans of Deadron to still check out the other artists on Still Here. Whenever I hear a band I love talking up another band they’re friends with or enjoy listening to, it always motivates me to spread my musical palate. Having only two releases under the Taranutlahawk name then, can you tell me if/how difficult the name-changing process was? Was the other band polite about the situation? How was the name Deadron chosen? Deadron: Absolutely, you should check out or friends Tundras from Rockford Illinois. They rule and they are awesome dudes. It was difficult, we were all worried about losing fans. The other band was wonderful, very polite and reasonable with their request for us to change. We all want to kill Ron so we decided it was most fitting. (Laughs) Aaron: I could definitely see that being one of the biggest concerns, but does it seem like everything is going well thus far? I have to say, with that explanation, Deadron is just as awesome of a name as Tarantualhawk (Laughs). So obviously, Along With Ghosts is entirely acoustic. I love how full the tracks feel with just the right amount of percussion. This may be a stupid question from someone who hasn’t heard the split and has yet to catch your live show, but was the acoustic sound something specific for AWG? Deadron generally an acoustic group, or do you play full-band/plan on releasing full-band material in the future? Deadron: Everything is going great so far, people still seem interested in us. Thank you, we recorded AWG live and straight into a mixer and into a cassette deck. We had always wanted to record something to cassette and we had the equipment lying around to do so. One afternoon, we sat down to record it and everything just fell together wonderfully- those were second and third takes of those tracks. Deadron has always been an electric group, we just love to play acoustically. AWG is meant to be a preview to our upcoming full length…same songs but full band arrangements. Aaron: That’s an awesome way to do it. As a musician, I’ve always been interested in two very different sides of recording, whether the band records something live in order to convey the raw energy or utilize the ability to be able to fix and edit anything they want to through heavy production. From the sounds of it, that’s going to be one beast of a full-length. Is there anything else you can tell us about this full-length? A title, release date, perhaps any songs that have been played live that fans can expect…etc.? I enjoy each song for their own merits, but I’m very excited to see what kind of energy a song like “Andrea” or “Leech” can pack live.
Deadron: We have been road testing some of the new material for the full length and we are writing new songs. In the meantime we are doing a split 10” full band, with our friends in TUNDRAS. The split will come out before the full length. As far as title, release date, and songs those are under wraps. Aaron: That’s awesome to hear. I’m sure the split will get blood amongst the fanbase pumping for what Deadon has in store. As far as the songs of AWG go, did the band go into writing with any certain theme or idea? What significance is behind the title, ‘Along With Ghosts’? Deadron: Hopefully! Well all three of our originals on AWG were written by me, Marley. They are some of the first songs ever written for Deadron and really set the ground work for the sort of band we want to be. Currently, we have taken to writing songs together and that has been fun watching the new songs develop into something entirely different than AWG. AWG plays into the idea of your memories being like ghosts and you have to decide whether to let them haunt you or travel with them. Also, check out Yokai Monsters. a series of creepy old Japanese kids movies, one of which shares that title. Aaron: Does that include both the lyrics and I’m assuming guitar work, and is there a prime lyricist in the group? I definitely feel that meaning throughout the EP, and that last bit is quite something to take inspiration from. I’m sure after reading this, fans will be looking into it. So now, just a few questions about the “Speed Trials” cover and the Deadron Cover Series. Did the former do anything to inspire the latter? How did you decide on “Speed Trials” for inclusion on AWG?
Deadron: Yes, I was the primary songwriter, including lyrics. I still write a lot of the lyrics but Ron and Andy have taken to writing lyrics also. In our lyric booklet, we will say who wrote each song so fans can get an idea for how differently we write from one another. I hope to write stuff that inspires people, so that means a lot to hear. Andy decided on “Speed Trials” randomly. We all like Elliott Smith and agreed it would be fun to cover. I suppose it had some inspiration, but I love playing other peoples songs so this is just another outlet to play our favorite bands’ music and show people what music influences us the most. Aaron: One of those bands being Modest Mouse, I presume, based on the first entry in the series being a cover of ‘Little Motel’? I have to say, the cover is absolutely terrific. I love the original and Modest Mouse has always been one of my favorite artists, and I think you definitely did the song justice. Can you tell us any other artists you may cover that we can look forward to, and what are some other main influences the band shares? I have no idea if this is coincidence or not, but I get a heavy Jesse Lacey (and now that I hear about full-band, possibly Brand New) vibe from several of the songs from AWG. Deadron: We will always put a lot into our artwork and packaging, as it is also our favorite part of getting a physical copy…fans can expect to get their money’s worth. I am a huge Modest Mouse fan and they were a band we could agree on right off the bat, so we went with it. I think “Little Motel” is an often overlooked song but has some of the most beautifully sad lyrics in MM’s catalog. I think covers can be done just like the original or be made into a new composition. I don’t think covers have to be one way or the other, just as long as it’s good. So thank you, we’re glad you, and others, have enjoyed the cover. We are excited to put up more. A few bands we are thinking of covering next are Say Anything, Heatmiser, and Low. We have very ranging tastes as a band and individually so we want to explore what styles we can do on acoustic guitars. We have gotten that Jesse Lacey comparison a lot. We all like Brand New, it was a heavy influence in the beginning stages of Tarantulahawk but has since been replaced by other influences. Brand New’s style is so simple yet so well done that it is often easily copied but not easily mastered, so we want to distance ourselves form any one genre or band (a great compliment none the less for Ron; Jesse has a phenomenal voice). Aaron: I can definitely agree with that, and I believe sad songs are often the most beautiful. The EP does a very fine job of walking that line, without ever being mopey or whiny. They’re sad, beautiful songs for people who need to hear that someone else may be sharing a similar experience as them. Say Anything is my favorite band, so I personally cannot wait to see how that translates. It’s good to be able to channel any influence without ever really replicating it, and I also believe AWG does a swell job of that. Deadron: Thank you! We love writing sad songs as much as we love listening to them. Thank you for the kind words about AWG,this was a delightful conversation. We hope to talk to you again soon.
Don’t forget to check out our review and of Deadron’s recently released acoustic EP, Along With Ghosts, available on the band’s Bandcamp.
An Interview with Late Night Beers/Song Premiere, “Broke An Arrow”
by Aaron Mook
Last Thursday, I had the pleasure of interviewing one of the best group of guys I’ve heard all year- Late Night Beers. If you have yet to hear their debut EP, Waking, you can find my review of it here at Fastest Kid in School and on Absolutepunk. Above is a brand new single, “Broke An Arrow”, premiering exclusively on FKIS that’s sure to be a hit with fans the band, as well as The Smiths and American Football. Check out the interview below, stream the new single and let us know what you think!
Aaron: So just to get the boring stuff out of the way, and as general knowledge for our readers, can you give us a lowdown on who plays what in the band?
Eddie: Well I’m Eddie Cuddy, I play guitar and sing. Tyler Bormann sings and plays guitar, and Dylan Morris plays drums. I played bass on the new track, as well.
Aaron: Awesome. For anyone who hasn’t checked it out, I wrote a review for your recent release, Waking, and I obviously enjoyed it immensely (it’s one of my top three EP’s of 2013). Is Waking officially your first release, and can you give us some insight into how the songs came together?
Eddie: Waking is definitely the first release. The songs came together over a span of two years, really, and we went in knowing the outcome that we wanted but not exactly how it would turn out.
Tyler: I would play these little pieces on my acoustic guitar for Eddie over the phone, and we would sort of go from there. There’s actually a video on Youtube of the intro, “Isn’t it Pretty” and that was 20 minutes after we had written it. We would work out the songs in practice once every few weeks, sometimes even once a month depending on the circumstances with work and school.
A: Oh, wow, so were you all together in same space while recording the EP?
E: Oh yeah, we actually recorded it in one day in a friend’s apartment. aside from doing the levels the night before. Dylan was really sick, so we kind of just went in with the mentality of “We have the money, let’s do this,”, and it honestly didn’t take more than six hours. Our friend just had this small interface, and we tried to set up for recording in different rooms of the house. We got the final mixes about two weeks later.
A: How long had you been a band before this?
E: I actually remember, we had our first practice on Black Friday of 2011, because we all went to a show right after our first practice. Tyler and I have been writing songs since seventh grade, and Dillon and I played in a hardcore band together, so the songs came together really quickly. The chemistry was already there, we just ran with it.
Dylan: We would always keep in touch, whether we were all separated by school or not, and pass the idea back and forth…that’s how it went for a while.
A: So when you finally did get together and finalize the idea of playing together, did you have any idea of what you wanted to sound like? Or did you just go with the flow once you were all together?
D: Well I don’t know it’s just because I’m a drummer, but I had a tendency for heavier stuff. We all listened to different bands, and Eddie probably had the widest musical palette, so it was mostly a just go with the flow kind of situation.
T: It felt like a jam band at the beginning. We all had angsty feelings that we brought together and I’m not the best guitar player in the world, so I would listen to something and try to channel that into whatever I was playing at the time.
A: I don’t want to throw out the comparison too much, but the artists I’ve heard mentioned most in comparison are obviously Morrissey and American Football. Were there any artists that you all listened to that you would consider a large influence on the band?
E: Those were definitely two of my favorite artists, and Tyler’s a big fan as well. American Football was like the band we wanted to be in, and we’d send in each other clips of songs we loved.
T: We knew we wanted somewhat of a math-y sound, too.
D: It was weirdest for me because I was so used to playing material until your shoulders blew out, you knw? (Laughs). So I had to learn real quick.
E: We knew wanted Dylan because he’s such technical drummer.
A: So how old are the songs that make up Waking?
E: “Chiminea” and” Waking” are two of our oldest songs, and” Isn’t it Pretty” is more of what we considered an intro. Tyler and I are big fans of AFI, we love intros and transitions, especially the theatricality behind them, so I’m really happy that “Isn’t It Pretty” turned out so well.
A: Well at three songs, it’s definitely a short listen, and I think it’s effective in the fact that I as a listener was actually kind of pissed after it ended. (Laughs) Like, it just leaves the listener wanting so much more.
T: We originally planned on a six song EP, but due to money and some other boundaries, it was just best to just focus on our three favorites and put them in an order that worked. It was put together so haphazardly, because I remember wanting “Broke An Arrow” so badly on the EP, but listening now, Waking is such a cohesive listen and “Broke An Arrow” just feels like it belonged in a different chapter for us.
A: Was “Broke An Arrow” written specifically for Waking?
D: It was a song we played live before Waking was even a thing.
E: It’s gone through some major structure changes since its original inception, though. Here’s how I remember it- Tyler and I wrote it together acoustically, and then once we brought it to Dylan, it all really started to fall into place.
A: Well not to put down Waking in any way, but listening to “Broke An Arrow”, the track feels much more dynamic and has an almost completely different vibe from the EP. It’s much more upbeat, with 2-3 minutes of pure instrumentals leading it in.
T: I know exactly what you mean,.Waking is really chordy. We write in a way that, it’s really important to us that we can order our songs however we’d like throughout our set list when we play live. “Broke An Arrow” isn’t the song for Waking, and when we wanted a new single, I think it was all of our first choices.
Lights & Caves have undoubtedly put out one of the best indie debuts I've heard in while, especially from such young up-and-comers. After reviewing their EP, I was able to catch up with Evan Rudman (drums) and Jason Marr (guitar) to discuss In Satori, the band's writing/recording process, where they're headed, and even Led Zepplin. Check it out:
V: So the record, In Satori - it was self-released? Did you see any difficulties in that?
E: Yeah, I mean the process can be really difficult when no one is tell you what happens next, what direction to go in…on the other hand, without anyone funding you, it’s a lot easier because you don’t have any money to pay back. So it definitely has its ups and downs.
V: What is the band’s writing process like? Did you go in with any specific ideas or themes, or is that something that came out naturally during practice?
E: Well Dillon loves recurring themes, but as for writing, I know a lot of it came from just jamming. Most of the album was actually written before I joined the band.
J: I’ve been in the band since the beginning, and we would basically write these little diddies we liked and they would go on to form these six, seven minute songs …we’d look at them as a band and say, “Okay, I don’t really like this” until we trimmed them into these Frankenstein songs we liked.
V: What kind of musical influences are you guys usually under?
J: I’m a pretty big fan of The Beatles, and while we all have our own individual tastes, I know we dig a lot of the same bands, like Coldplay and Manchester Orchestra.
E: Yeah, definitely Manchester Orchestra, and I’m into Portugal. The Man and stuff like that. I know Jason here is a pretty big Tallhart fan, and we all dig stuff like Muse and a little Kings of Leon.
V: So if you had to throw together a dream tour, who would be on the bill?
J: The Beatles. [Laughs] Evan and I just looked directly at each other and knew what was up.
E: I said it once as a joke, but then I got to thinking about it, and I would want to play with Led Zepplin; not only would they kick ass to play with but it would be awesome to have Jon Bonham get us drunk under the table. [Laughs] But in a more realistic sense? Manchester Orchestra, The Dear Hunter, bands like that…I’ve always been a pretty big The Early November fan.
J: We almost had a show with Tallhart, but unfortunately, it didn’t quite pan out.
V: Did recording run smoothly?
E: Yeah, our producer, Mike, was great. A lot of our stuff ended up quite differently than we imagined it because we would bring it to him and he’d say “That’s great, but let’s see what happens when you try this,” which is a really good thing to be open to when you’re in a band. It’s gotta run like a democracy, and when it does, you’ll likely wind up happy with the results.
V: How long has Lights & Caves been active?
E: The oldest lyric we probably have for Lights (we’ve all played in different projects) was probably from when we got together the first time, about a year ago, and from there, these are the songs we’ve created.
V: Aside from demos, is this your first official release?
J: Yeah, I mean this is the first real release in general. [Laughs] I’m not sure if we even had a demo.
V: How has the reaction been thus far?
E: Well, we’re working on getting some more reviews, but really, Absolutepunk’s is the only one we have so far [Laughs] and thanks for the kind words, it means a lot to the band finally having been able to create something for ourselves and our friends and families.
V: As a fellow musician, along with many of our readers, what kind of advice would you give to other up-and-coming bands that may be growing impatient with the obstacles of playing in a band?
E: It’s important to keep a small head, a level head, and to focus on personal growth. I think a lot of the times, band politics can get in the way. You know, you start playing shows and then someone starts talking about how you need to make more money or something like that. It’s important to remember, as that 15-year-old freshman kid who’s in his first band, that your chances at that stage of going anywhere are very low. It sucks, but don’t get discouraged if you’re not signed after five or six shows. [Laughs] Just keep doing what you want to do and then when you reach college or graduate high school, you’ve grown as a musician to have a fairer chance at taking this somewhere.
V: Where does Lights & Caves want to go from here?
E: We’ve already got a few new songs that we’re pretty excited about, one of which we’ll definitely be playing at the In Satori release show tomorrow night, and we have another song that didn’t make the record (a somewhat more rockin’ B-side to “Carry Me Home”) that I think we’ll definitely bring back whenever we do our first proper full-length.
V: As a band, what is your goal with this record? What’s most important to you about making music together?
J: My goal was to put out a record I would enjoy listening to, but also our friends and family would enjoy, and I think with In Satori it’s already been pretty easy to see that we’ve succeeded in that aspect, which we’re all very proud of.
E: I like that answer; really, I just want to continue making music I’ll enjoy playing for others. I’m not one to worry much about sales, but as long as we sell enough to fund another release (or just keep playing shows), that’s what’ll keep me happy. [Laughs]
After reading this, make sure you check out the band's fantastic debut EP, In Satori.