“It’s a very strange phenomenon,” Ness said. “Most bands that have been around 35 years, their heyday was 35 years ago and they’re still trying to live off that. For us, it was the opposite. Back then we were struggling, guys in a van going across the country broke. It just kind of evolves and progresses, and we’re really fortunate that way.”
When we wrote and recorded our first record, it was before "Defend Pop Punk" and that type of shit. Once it came out, we were very embraced by that community, and we weren’t necessarily comfortable with that. So we kind of made this reactionary record where it sort of focused on what we weren’t good at, and trying to succeed that way. But yeah, you should just make a record you want to make and not think about people’s expectations.