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Jason Tate 02/22/12 03:10 PM

Attack Attack! No Longer on Rise Records
 
Attack Attack! are no longer on Rise Records; they have 10 songs, produced by John Feldman, already completed for their next album though.
From the ArticleSo we already have another record sort of in the tubes right now; and were going to sort of tinker with it throughout the year. [...] We dont have another record label or anything lined up and probably not planning on going to another one. So its like weve got this sitting around that we can do whatever the hell we want with whenever we want.

Submitted by zack-182

lp670sv 02/22/12 03:11 PM

Rise just got a little more bearable

Handraa 02/22/12 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lp670sv (Post 103526312)
Rise just got a little more bearable

Yes, yes it did.

incognitojones 02/22/12 03:14 PM

Nice game plan, they can do pretty well without a label probably. Even if they shit out the same song ten times they'll be making more money with it.

cubsml34 02/22/12 03:17 PM

But these guys are the epitome of Risecore. Noooooooo...

ACA 02/22/12 03:17 PM

Rise Records gets better and better every day.

BTBAM777 02/22/12 03:19 PM

John Feldman is dead to me.

t.web4 02/22/12 03:22 PM

Rise is gotten so much more respectable in the past two years.

DanTGD 02/22/12 03:23 PM

My slight new faith in music will be destroyed when they get signed somewhere else and release more shit.

Jason Tate 02/22/12 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by incognitojones (Post 103526582)
Nice game plan, they can do pretty well without a label probably. Even if they shit out the same song ten times they'll be making more money with it.

Like FTSK?

Killerkid64 02/22/12 03:28 PM

"trumpets"

lp670sv 02/22/12 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 103527622)
Like FTSK?

well to be fair FTSK went from zero listenable songs on The Weekend:Friday EP to 2-3 on their self titled so their improving?

Zack Zarrillo 02/22/12 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 103527622)
Like FTSK?

Can you compare the two? AA!, whether you like the music or not, is the biggest band in that side of the scene. Much bigger than FTSK were at any point I would argue, and especially much bigger than FTSK six months ago when they opted to go that way.

If they grow their fan base with this record (which seems to be working) and play the, "support us! we're on our own now!" card, I think they'll be probably alright.

If they sold 19K copies again and did it completely on their own, that's a nice amount of money on top of all merch income, tour income, etc

incognitojones 02/22/12 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 103527622)
Like FTSK?

I guess if FTSK was bigger at their peak and never wasted time with a major label in the first place. brb, gonna go blast Hey Brittany, jaaaaam.

Miketheunicycle 02/22/12 03:33 PM

haha haha well now,

Dustin Harkins 02/22/12 03:35 PM

I guess funding for AA!'s promotion went towards DGD?

Zack Zarrillo 02/22/12 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin Harkins (Post 103528512)
I guess funding for AA!'s promotion went towards DGD?

How do you mean? AA! landed at number 11 on the Billboard charts. That's pretty nuts

Wings That Work 02/22/12 03:38 PM

Could they manage a jump to a major label?

Jason Tate 02/22/12 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zack-182 (Post 103527962)
Can you compare the two? AA!, whether you like the music or not, is the biggest band in that side of the scene. Much bigger than FTSK were at any point I would argue, and especially much bigger than FTSK six months ago when they opted to go that way.

If they grow their fan base with this record (which seems to be working) and play the, "support us! we're on our own now!" card, I think they'll be probably alright.

If they sold 19K copies again and did it completely on their own, that's a nice amount of money on top of all merch income, tour income, etc

There was a time when FTSK were as big, relatively, as AA. It's all a cycle of what's trendy - and there was a moment where FTSK were at the top of that cycle. But trends change.

If they do it - it certainly is.

DylanPPPP 02/22/12 03:39 PM

I couldn't help but laugh when he said they are always trying to freshen their sound.

DylanPPPP 02/22/12 03:40 PM

Forever The Sickest Kids were apart of the thanksgiving halftime performance in Detroit a couple years ago. Just remember seeing that and thinking "are they really popular enough to do this?"

Zack Zarrillo 02/22/12 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wings That Work (Post 103528702)
Could they manage a jump to a major label?

I don't think it's worth it. Frankly, if they're going to sign with another label, it should be with Rise. They're Rise's number one priority (I would imagine) because of their size and financial earnings (I would also imagine). There's no way they'd make more money with a major or get more promotion with a major.

It also went pretty poorly for Escape The Fate from Epitaph. I'd look at that as an example towards why I wouldn't make that move

Spencer Control 02/22/12 03:50 PM

Attack Attack! remains the same, John Feldman remains the same, Rise gets better. Average change? Positive.

Then again, one could easily argue that AA! and Feldman are both constantly degenerating...

Jason Tate 02/22/12 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wings That Work (Post 103528702)
Could they manage a jump to a major label?

I'd argue that's the worst move they could make career wise.

Viva Sonata 02/22/12 03:52 PM

Ummmm ok

imposs1ble 02/22/12 03:53 PM

I'll bet 10-1 they'll sign to metal blade. They're big enough for that to be an investment that the company would take. Also they (kinda) fit the roster in a roundabout way.

They'll sign somewhere. I don't think they can really do it on their own and I perish the thought of them starting their own label and making decisions of signing other bands they deem as "good."

Rysker6 02/22/12 03:56 PM

I'm assuming songs leftover from their last record. That came out like 5 minutes ago?

cubine 02/22/12 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rysker6 (Post 103529842)
I'm assuming songs leftover from their last record. That came out like 5 minutes ago?

Nope. They wrote and recorded two records at the same time. This Means War was self-produced and was released last month, and was intended as a "heavy" record. This other one was produced by Feldman and is apparently more focused on Caleb's cleans, I'm guessing it's mostly stuff along the lines of Criminal and All Alone from the self titled's deluxe reissue.

johnnyferris 02/22/12 04:01 PM

I'm definitely okay with this!

iseejosh 02/22/12 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 103527622)
Like FTSK?

Seeing as AA! has had two consecutive albums debut in the Top 40, and continue to sell out tours, I'd say they'd do just fine without a label. FTSK had some success with 'Woah!', followed that up with a complete pile of shit EP and lost their fanbase.

_veges_ 02/22/12 04:12 PM

This is almost better for rise than them signing a good band

NorthstarPark 02/22/12 04:16 PM

Sadly they'll do just fine without a label :-(.

JordanKTM 02/22/12 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cubine (Post 103530202)
This other one was produced by Feldman and is apparently more focused on Caleb's cleans, I'm guessing it's mostly stuff along the lines of Criminal and All Alone from the self titled's deluxe reissue.


I wanna hear more songs like that along with Pick A Side and Last Breath

Born_For_This 02/22/12 04:22 PM

Is this uk or american attack attack?

WeltallAY 02/22/12 04:24 PM

I can see the hate for prior releases (though SCS will always be a classic to me) but I was very, very surprised by This Means War. I would even go as far to say that's excellent. Their new sound really works and I actually thought that the production was a great balance between rough and polished.

Jason Tate 02/22/12 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iseejosh (Post 103530392)
Seeing as AA! has had two consecutive albums debut in the Top 40, and continue to sell out tours, I'd say they'd do just fine without a label. FTSK had some success with 'Woah!', followed that up with a complete pile of shit EP and lost their fanbase.

They were more popular than you're giving them credit for.

I see a similar future for a trend-infused band like this. But I'd definitely milk that shit if I was in their shoes too. Take the money you made from the last album, quickly record, release it and profit. Looks like what they're doing.

Rob McWilliams 02/22/12 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cubine (Post 103530202)
Nope. They wrote and recorded two records at the same time. This Means War was self-produced and was released last month, and was intended as a "heavy" record. This other one was produced by Feldman and is apparently more focused on Caleb's cleans, I'm guessing it's mostly stuff along the lines of Criminal and All Alone from the self titled's deluxe reissue.


So...butt rock.

P NESS 02/22/12 04:39 PM

Don't listen to them at all, but I always go for John Feldmann's production.

moneymaker. 02/22/12 04:41 PM

i was hoping attack attack was breaking up... bummer.

narca9 02/22/12 04:42 PM

I'd be pretty surprised if Rise hasn't offered these guys whatever the hell they want to stay on the label. This Means War opened at 11 and they are without a doubt the biggest band in that scene right now.

iseejosh 02/22/12 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 103531932)
They were more popular than you're giving them credit for.

I see a similar future for a trend-infused band like this. But I'd definitely milk that shit if I was in their shoes too. Take the money you made from the last album, quickly record, release it and profit. Looks like what they're doing.

I'm no huge fan of AA!, but listening to the new CD, I've noticed they have abandoned the electronic aspect of their sound, somewhat, and seem to be trying to create a new image and sound for themselves(ie The Devil Wears Prada). But seeing as how ADD their general fanbase is, I'd say its a smart move to ride the success of 'This Means War' and release the Feldmann produced CD as quick as possible.

As far as FTSK, ya they were huge for 'Underdog Alma Mater' and rode that for a while. But then 'Friday' happened and have been trying to recover ever since, and releasing a sub-par album after a horrid EP didnt help.

iseejosh 02/22/12 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by narca9 (Post 103533062)
I'd be pretty surprised if Rise hasn't offered these guys whatever the hell they want to stay on the label. This Means War opened at 11 and they are without a doubt the biggest band in that scene right now.

The Devil Wears Prada opened higher and sold more. AA! are HUGE, but biggest band in genre is stretching it. http://http://grafwall.indiestar.tv/...debuts-at.html

t00latef0rr0ses 02/22/12 04:58 PM

New album isn't horrible. Making progress towards at least being respectable.

Zack Zarrillo 02/22/12 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iseejosh (Post 103533932)
The Devil Wears Prada opened higher and sold more. AA! are HUGE, but biggest band in genre is stretching it. http://http://grafwall.indiestar.tv/...debuts-at.html

I don't listen to either, but I feel like TDWP are slightly less..Risexcore-esscque don't you?

rocknroll365 02/22/12 04:59 PM

seems strange to self produce a record and release it on rise then turn around and self release a record produced by feldman. probably pretty smart to get off the label so quickly after releasing a record tho, with all the tours they have coming up in support of it, plus merch sales at the shows. should see a lot better profit in that aspect.

iseejosh 02/22/12 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zack-182 (Post 103534192)
I don't listen to either, but I feel like TDWP are slightly less..Risexcore-esscque don't you?

Ya, I agree, but both came up on the same label and kind of the same electronic hardcore wave, but TDWP have strayed far away from their original sound. AA! are trying to do the same it seems like with the release of their new CD.

Acad08 02/22/12 05:06 PM

I'm a huge fan of Attack Attack! and I loved This Means War and especially the self-titled. Can't wait to see what they bring out next!

iAMhollyood315 02/22/12 05:08 PM

their last album was garbage. I'd be interested to hear what these songs sound like

iseejosh 02/22/12 05:14 PM

And I know ETID have criticized AA! in the past, but I wonder if they defended AA! in that video post from earlier, would the responses be any different rather than all the hate AA! is getting.

bobsheiskawy 02/22/12 05:17 PM

i have a feeling the feldman-produced record will be my favorite thing they will have released up to that point.