[Genuma]

this is ridiculous. the Jays are basically half 2012 Marlins now. Such a fucking mess.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I wish the citizens of Miami could sue the shit out of that awful franchise.

[cshadows2887]

I'm not sure why everyone seem certain the Sox won't contend. Granted a lot of their core players had down or injured years last year. But Lester, Buccholtz, Pedroia, Ortiz, Middlebrooks and Ellsbury isn't a bad bunch to work with. It all centers around who else joins their rotation with Dubront, and who they get for 1B, LF and RF. They're certainly not completely out of it for 2013.

[RockVocalPower]

Originally Posted by QuikTrig

i haven't seen any beat reports about having some master plan in mind. i think there would be some rumblings if there was a strategy to this whole debacle besides "please pay for my team miami, kthx".

This Passan piece is pretty damning: http://yhoo.it/LOQNAV

I wouldn't be surprised if beat writers stayed silent for fear of being blacklisted by the team. The Marlins already make media members PAY for parking, which is absurd and tacky.

[thejetstolehome]

Whether it's fair or not, the last season + one month of Red Sox baseball have taken away any benefit of the doubt that Boston had or would've had for a long time.

[Eich696]

Boston is going to need good years from Lester and clay if they want to contend in my opinion.

[itsmesean0630]

I just heard the Marlins trade news...

They really don't give a shit about their fanbase. Blue Jays look scary on paper, let's see if they can actually do something.

Very happy to have Johnson out of the division, though.

[Until The Bombs]

Originally Posted by thejetstolehome

Whether it's fair or not, the last season + one month of Red Sox baseball have taken away any benefit of the doubt that Boston had or would've had for a long time.

Shut up Matt.

: )

[Eich696]

Originally Posted by Until The Bombs

Shut up Matt.

: )

Where do you think the sox stand in the division and what do you think needs to happen for them to contend this year?

[wesgemm08]

I'll still put the Rays at #1 in the division right now.

[Recovery Room]

Can someone explain to me the point of having a city pay for a stadium only to turn around and do this? You've ensured that the stadium will remain empty. I don't see how Loria and Samson benefit from that.

[Eich696]

There is nothing to explain. This move does nothing but help the team financially.

[CubbyNick42]

Originally Posted by Recovery Room

Can someone explain to me the point of having a city pay for a stadium only to turn around and do this? You've ensured that the stadium will remain empty. I don't see how Loria and Samson benefit from that.

Because from 2002 to 2010, years when they basically had no one at games, they still pocketed $150MM in revenue sharing. And now they'll be able to do more of the same.

[DooDooBird]

Originally Posted by itsmesean0630

I just heard the Marlins trade news...

They really don't give a shit about their fanbase.

Loria gives no shits about anyone, including personnel too. It's also funny to me how they go through managers all the time. I almost forgot that Joe Girardi managed them for a season and was fired. Fredi Gonzalez wasn't there too terribly long before he got the boot. Mike Redmond has no chance to even try and make a name for himself.

[CubbyNick42]

Originally Posted by DooDooBird

Loria gives no shits about anyone, including personnel too. It's also funny to me how they go through managers all the time. I almost forgot that Joe Girardi managed them for a season and was fired. Fredi Gonzalez wasn't there too terribly long before he got the boot. Mike Redmond has no chance to even try and make a name for himself.

Fredi and Girardi directly contradict this statement. Even if he has no chance of success in Florida, he gets people thinking of him as a big league manager and sets himself up for the next job as long as he handles the team well. No MLB front office is going to judge his record knowing the situation.