[Jaytothesyg]

TSSF were really nice and seemed very happy to be on the tour when they played in Cleveland

[toxicrat2]

Originally Posted by prospekt

- Lastly out of all the shows I've been to I've never seen this happen until tonight. The set change times were snappy. But then the bands waited around until they were supposed to come on. Like TSSF was set to go on at 945 yet their soundcheck was done by 935. So for ten minutes instead of coming out and playing more or getting their set started and letting the crowd at the show get out at an earlier time, nothing happened on stage and they just sat in the back. It was intentionally being dragged out. NFG did this too.

same thing happened at my date, i think it is in the venue contract because the venue makes more money if people are buying beer or whatever between sets.

oh, and TSSF was amazing. they didnt do anything rude to their fans. the bassist with the sharks hat actually told some ****** off for trying to biff kids who were stage diving. i was ready to deck the kid myself when i seen what he was doing.

[DXArmy182]

Yeah TSSF seemed like nothing but cool guys. I went to Pawtucket and Boston and they were very thankful and cool to every fan that went nuts for their set.

[NewAgeofHorus]

Originally Posted by COTA

Stoked for tonight, but I'm still trying to unload the 2nd ticket I bought from a pair so my friend could come with us. Hit me up if you know anyone who needs a ticket.

Can you see if TSSF is still selling soccer jerseys and what sizes? Thanks.

[COTA]

Originally Posted by NewAgeofHorus

Can you see if TSSF is still selling soccer jerseys and what sizes? Thanks.

Will do man.

[jkim4007]

Parker once introduced "Mt Diablo" as "this song goes out to all the sluts who can't be faithful to their men." That kind of does it for me, them being nice to the crowd for a 40 minute time slot in some cities isn't indicative of anything. which sucks because their songs are awesome.

[NewAgeofHorus]

Originally Posted by jkim4007

Parker once introduced "Mt Diablo" as "this song goes out to all the sluts who can't be faithful to their men." That kind of does it for me, them being nice to the crowd for a 40 minute time slot in some cities isn't indicative of anything. which sucks because their songs are awesome.

You don't like them because they don't like sluts...or did I misinterpret what you said?

[Jaytothesyg]

Originally Posted by jkim4007

Parker once introduced "Mt Diablo" as "this song goes out to all the sluts who can't be faithful to their men." That kind of does it for me, them being nice to the crowd for a 40 minute time slot in some cities isn't indicative of anything. which sucks because their songs are awesome.

Like all of their songs are about that though haha

[jkim4007]

Originally Posted by NewAgeofHorus

You don't like them because they don't like sluts...or did I misinterpret what you said?

No, I don't like them because they're sexist assholes and continue to be sexist assholes.

Parker didn’t just write two incredibly sexist songs, he played a show (with females in attendance, most likely) and straight up said “hey, FUCK GIRLS WHO CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX”. as fucked up as the songwriting itself is, that statement is so much worse.

[surette]

Originally Posted by jkim4007

No, I don't like them because they're sexist assholes and continue to be sexist assholes.

Parker didn’t just write two incredibly sexist songs, he played a show (with females in attendance, most likely) and straight up said “hey, FUCK GIRLS WHO CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX”. as fucked up as the songwriting itself is, that statement is so much worse.

"fuck girls who choose to have sex" is not at all the same as what you originally said, "sluts who can't be faithful to their men."

[jkim4007]

Originally Posted by Jaytothesyg

Like all of their songs are about that though haha

Two of their songs are about that (Daughters and Mt. Diablo)....and that makes it okay because?

Slut shaming is incredibly fucked up, I can't believe that has to be spelled out for people. I think Under Soil and Dirt is an awesome record, and TSSF shows are still fun to see, but there's a line between admitting that something is problematic and falling for that cognitive dissonance.

[bobby runs]

Originally Posted by jkim4007

No, I don't like them because they're sexist assholes and continue to be sexist assholes.

Parker didn’t just write two incredibly sexist songs, he played a show (with females in attendance, most likely) and straight up said “hey, FUCK GIRLS WHO CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX”. as fucked up as the songwriting itself is, that statement is so much worse.

Like you didn't know a guy who felt the same at age 17

[surette]

Originally Posted by jkim4007

Two of their songs are about that (Daughters and Mt. Diablo)....and that makes it okay because?

Slut shaming is incredibly fucked up, I can't believe that has to be spelled out for people. I think Under Soil and Dirt is an awesome record, and TSSF shows are still fun to see, but there's a line between admitting that something is problematic and falling for that cognitive dissonance.

I'm confused. If they're shaming girls just for having sex, then yes, that's wrong. Originally you said they were calling out girls who aren't faithful, and I don't see a problem with that. Just as I don't see a problem with calling out guys who aren't faithful.

[jkim4007]

Originally Posted by surette

"fuck girls who choose to have sex" is not at all the same as what you originally said, "sluts who can't be faithful to their men."

The statement "sluts who can't be faithful to their men" openly shames sluts, aka women who choose to have sex with multiple people, or in this case, more than one person. At a show? It becomes worse because it's justifying the pop punk bros who hold that belief and telling the women that they should be guilty for making somewhat unorthodox choices about their sex lives (key word: their).

I think this post does a very nice job of summing it up (and yes, that sly dig is probably about TSSF): [url]http://thehotelyear.tumblr.com/post/29182544437/beccaonthecoast-i-am-literally-speechless/url]

The songs can be weakly brushed off as personal venting, but that comment? No chance in hell.

[prospekt]

Originally Posted by surette

Originally you said they were calling out girls who aren't faithful, and I don't see a problem with that. Just as I don't see a problem with calling out guys who aren't faithful.

Yeah I'm not sure what this jkim guy is complaining about. My thoughts exactly.