[Eich696]

How is it bullshit? It's the same thing that has happened to everyone else in the league.

[cryates]

The kid is great but needs to wait for his raise just like everyone else.

[RonStoppable]

Originally Posted by bigmike

But theres been a precedent. This article lists two cases: Derek Jeter getting a raise from $130K to $550K and Pujols got a raise from $200K to $600K. Both of these occurred after Pujols and Jeter had one season in the major leagues.

The Angels could name any price at all. It's a negotiation, but in the end, they get to name any price they want. In the end, it won't affect Trout's play, however, isn't it just worth the extra dollars to give him a $200K raise or something of that ilk for perhaps the greatest rookie season ever?

And this says nothing of the fact that Major League Baseball has about twice the amount of revenue of the NHL yet every single player in the NHL will make more than Trout as their league minimum is $525K with half the revenue. That would indicate that MLB's starting salaries are far too low..

And that says nothing of the fact that sports awards almost all power, unilaterally, to the teams. From the draft where players have no say where they go or their price to situations like this and the six years of service time.

quoting because I agree and there's a bigger issue than just Trout's case specifically. "That's the way it's always been for everyone else" doesn't mean it's fair and he has no right to be upset.

[Eich696]

Just read bigmikes post and I agree to an extent, but trout will have his payday soon enough.

Must suck to make 500,000+ a year

[SamuelJLast]

John Blake ‏@RangerBlake
Martin Perez sustains a fracture of ulna bone in left forearm after being hit by line drive in 6th of today's game vs. Seattle.

I guess the media get to write about how the Rangers need to sign Lohse now.

[rcrook]

[Scott Weber]

we really don't know what happened with trout anyways. maybe his agent asked for some unprecedented raise in the 2nd year and the angels refused, offered him 600k or whatever. agent refused right back, and they stalemated. so angels just decided to renew the deal because they have 100% of the leverage and agent looks like a whiny bitch.

[rcrook]

Trout has taken the high road during this whole thing or maybe he just deferred to his agent to do all the complaining.

[CubbyNick42]

Originally Posted by bigmike

Doug, Scott and Nick, here's my thoughts on the questions about whether prospects should be brought up earlier:

I immediately think you must differentiate between pitchers and hitters. Some research suggest that velocity is one of the earliest-peaking baseball skills. Obviously, there's a zillion more things to pitching, but I think pitchers should be pushed aggressively and the first sign that they're getting the pitching aspect of things down, they should move towards the bullpen and transition into starting (like the Twins did with Johan thought I don't know if that was their plan or if it just worked out that way).

Like Scott, I'm all for club control. I think hitters should stay longer in the minors than normal unless they can give you value in other, non-batting ways (plus defenders, good on the base paths, etc). If they're projecting to be average in those categories, I wait for the bat because power peaks later in the 20's for hitters. So, I'd rather get their power peaks for as cheap as possible.

For instance, I think Jim Thome blocking Ryan Howard was a great thing for the Phillies. They got Howards peak and if they dont sign him to that terrible contract extension, it would've worked out perfectly.

Obviously, there's other things to consider (team profile, free agent market, etc etc), but that's my theory in general.

I agree with pretty much all of that. It's generally a waste to have even blue chip hitters up before they're 23.

[rcrook]

TrippingOlney cracks me up

http://trippingolney.com/2013/03/04/...eview-al-west/

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Originally Posted by rcrook

Trout has taken the high road during this whole thing or maybe he just deferred to his agent to do all the complaining.

I'm sorry, I just can't give a shit about an agent complaining about a guy making $510,000 one year in the league. Trout is going to get the most insane contract of all time, sooner rather than later. He can soak his agent's tears in all of those green bills. In the meantime, let him go find the world's smallest violin.

[CubbyNick42]

Originally Posted by rcrook

TrippingOlney cracks me up

http://trippingolney.com/2013/03/04/...eview-al-west/

Holy shit. I did not know he had a blog.

[rcrook]

Originally Posted by CubbyNick42

Holy shit. I did not know he had a blog.

me neither. i think most parody accounts are dumb but I just love TrippingOlney. whoever does it does a great job.

[bigmike]

Trout will get a monster deal. You know, assuming he doesn't Grady Sizemore himself while playing a demanding defensive position.

[CubbyNick42]

Originally Posted by rcrook

me neither. i think most parody accounts are dumb but I just love TrippingOlney. whoever does it does a great job.

Yep, agreed. It's a great concept, but they've done an awesome job of keeping it interesting.