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12:29 PM on 09/14/09 
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Agreed. Why would she freak out?

She just thought it was rediculous.

Pokemon who just do status and annoying stuff are so fun... when you're using them haha. Jumpluff comes to mind. Props to Troggy on Jumpluff though.

There's also Stallrein, though that's a bit more streightforeward. That thing just barely beat me at nationals...

Articuno used to be my favorite, but i really like Zapdos now since he's a big part of my team in OU.

I like Zapdos best also. It can cream both of the other birds.

I forgot what these were in referrence to.

Shoddy. I had to go back to see what they were about also.
12:40 PM on 09/14/09 
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She just thought it was rediculous.
Oh well. baller is as a baller does.

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There's also Stallrein, though that's a bit more streightforeward. That thing just barely beat me at nationals...
What does Grass Knot do to a pokemon like that?

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I like Zapdos best also. It can cream both of the other birds.
Electric/Flying is just one of the best typing out there.

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Shoddy. I had to go back to see what they were about also.
Gotcha, well you don't have to upload pokemon or anything, but just create teams on it.
04:09 PM on 09/14/09 
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Oh well. baller is as a baller does.

That one is going in my signature.

What does Grass Knot do to a pokemon like that?

No clue. I don't have a grass knotter on my team. I was trying to keep his hail down with sunny day and then put him to sleep. No sleep ever hit him, so I gave up and sent three solar beams at him, all hitting a protect or substitute.

Electric/Flying is just one of the best typing out there.

Plus, it's just so original. There's nothing besides Zapdos.

Gotcha, well you don't have to upload pokemon or anything, but just create teams on it.

Really? Definitely downloading. I'll make a joke team of things I've never used.
05:18 PM on 09/14/09 
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I got HGSS on my flashcart. Crazy that they already have a translation for it. It's pretty cool :D I'm going to buy both when they come out. Worth every single penny, I guarantee you guys.
05:42 PM on 09/14/09 
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I got HGSS on my flashcart. Crazy that they already have a translation for it. It's pretty cool :D I'm going to buy both when they come out. Worth every single penny, I guarantee you guys.


That's good to hear. Very good, as a matter of fact.
06:18 PM on 09/14/09 
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That one is going in my signature.
Hahaha nice!

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No clue. I don't have a grass knotter on my team. I was trying to keep his hail down with sunny day and then put him to sleep. No sleep ever hit him, so I gave up and sent three solar beams at him, all hitting a protect or substitute.
I got him confused with Wailord. The part Ice is not going to let you have a good Grass Knot, and the fact that he probably have Ice Beam doesn't help either haha. Dude, switching between Protect and Sub has got to be so annoying. Especialy if it's in Hail with Leftovers. Yeah Stallrein is tough to take down. Maybe a neutral approach like Fighting would be the best option. I could see Lucario taking him down fast. Or any Steel for that matter.

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Plus, it's just so original. There's nothing besides Zapdos.
Oh that's true. Zapdos will probably be the best Electric/Flying too if they choose to make another one.

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Really? Definitely downloading. I'll make a joke team of things I've never used.
Do it!
I got HGSS on my flashcart. Crazy that they already have a translation for it. It's pretty cool :D I'm going to buy both when they come out. Worth every single penny, I guarantee you guys.

OKay what does that mean exactly?
08:58 PM on 09/14/09 
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Why that is what I should be saying to you, sir.

I got him confused with Wailord. The part Ice is not going to let you have a good Grass Knot, and the fact that he probably have Ice Beam doesn't help either haha. Dude, switching between Protect and Sub has got to be so annoying. Especialy if it's in Hail with Leftovers. Yeah Stallrein is tough to take down. Maybe a neutral approach like Fighting would be the best option. I could see Lucario taking him down fast. Or any Steel for that matter.

He had Surf, so I was good on Ice Beam, but he still took me out.

Oh that's true. Zapdos will probably be the best Electric/Flying too if they choose to make another one.

Yeah, though I doubt they will. Legendary birds are pretty original, so I think they'll stick with them.


I did, and I made a really sucky team! What I think I'll really like are randomized battles. Those could be fun.

OKay what does that mean exactly?

He has HG/SS, but just the data, not the physical game.
09:31 PM on 09/14/09 
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Why that is what I should be saying to you, sir.
If it's in the sig, it says it all.

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He had Surf, so I was good on Ice Beam, but he still took me out.
He's hard to take down though, so i don't blame you.

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Yeah, though I doubt they will. Legendary birds are pretty original, so I think they'll stick with them.
True. The only other Fire/Flying i can think of is Charizard, who is a starter anyway. I do want to see a Grass/Electric now that i'm thinking about types now though.

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I did, and I made a really sucky team! What I think I'll really like are randomized battles. Those could be fun.
I love random battles so much haha.

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He has HG/SS, but just the data, not the physical game.
I see. How does that help someone though?
09:41 PM on 09/14/09 
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I've been slacking on Shoddy lately. I guess that means I'm having a good time at college, but I fear I'm getting rusty.
10:10 PM on 09/14/09 
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CLEANED UP WITH VAPOREON AND FINISHED OFF THREE POKEMON! Man i am happy.
10:13 PM on 09/14/09 
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CLEANED UP WITH VAPOREON AND FINISHED OFF THREE POKEMON! Man i am happy.


that's nuts.
10:15 PM on 09/14/09 
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It was nuts. I took out Suicune, Aerodactyl and Latias. Protect/Wish/Toxic'd them all except just Surf'd Aerodactyl.
10:19 PM on 09/14/09 
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It was nuts. I took out Suicune, Aerodactyl and Latias. Protect/Wish/Toxic'd them all except just Surf'd Aerodactyl.

Wow. good for you man. If that was me I would have just left the room haha
10:21 PM on 09/14/09 
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Wow. good for you man. If that was me I would have just left the room haha

I was considering, but when he sent out Aerodactyl i decided to knock him down, then he sent in Latias who was already Toxic'd, so i went with it.
05:35 AM on 09/15/09 
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Yeah i remember Clamp not sucking. Too bad no one ever uses it anymore. It's a Gen I move like Hyper Beam haha. I remember when Hyper Beam was all the rage.

Well, remember Hyper Beam was glitched in the original games to where if you fainted the opposing Pokemon with it, you didn't have to recharge. I think it was fixed in Pokemon Stadium 1, because it was making me recharge the other day, but as far as I know link battles would have been a lot of weakening move + hyper beam. That's why they recommended it on so many Pokes originally, finish 'em off for no penalty was too good to pass up.

Well That's probably not too bad of a move. You lose 25 Base Power though, right? But gain that awesome accuracy. I think it's probably worth it, since Tyrantiar can dish out the damamge anyway. And yeah, that flinch gets a second free hit. I approve haha.

For non-STAB, you kinda gotta go with Stone Edge for the power, but with T-Tar it has been working out OK. I can't stand Stone Edge's low accuracy. The problem is I need it on the other Pokes for coverage.

It really is killing me, i'm actually starting to get surprised i made it this far without one. I agree, Gliscor probably shouldn't get it. My other two Physical Attackers are Snorlax and Metagross. Man maybe i rely too much on Zapdos and Starmie. I think the answer might be getting a new lead with Taunt to be honest. One faster than Mismagus since Sub/Calm Mind has been hurting my team a lot lately. So the same lead with Crunch/Rock Slide or Stone Edge would be really handy.

Well, if you can counter the Pokemon weak to a certain type a different way, then you probably won't notice that you are missing it. Right now you don't really have a place to put Stone Edge, but if you have ThunderPunch and Ice Punch on Metagross, that does cover most things weak to Rock. It just doesn't cover them simultaneously, you'll have to know what's coming in. However, since you have both punches, just alternating them would undoubtedly catch someone off guard.

I rely a lot on Zapdos myself, it is a Pokemon with great value. When it gets exploded on, I get really mad. Yes, it's one of my Metagross checks/counters, but it still sucks. That's one of the reasons I use Gyarados though, because I can't have Scizor and friends going on a rampage if Zapdos is to get blown up on. Protect on Zapdos would be clutch, but it would require a lot of prediction, and I'd miss out on Thunder Wave, which cripples common switch ins like Latias and Rotom.

I haven't been on Shoddy, but Mismagius appearing is pretty interesting. The best thing to do is just pummel it with Dark attacks like Pursuit or Crunch. I remember your Snorlax having Fire Punch, but not Crunch, right? I wouldn't recommend no STAB since you don't have Curse. Personally I'd probably use Tyranitar or Scizor to kill Missy. You could go back to Aero lead maybe, but it wouldn't fit that great with what you have going on now. Tyranitar can Taunt/Stone Edge, but he's slow, so he'll only Taunt stuff like Swampert, Bronzong, and maybe Gross if you invest in speed.

Taunt owns with i predict right. Sending Gliscor in isn't fun though.

nananananananana nananananananana Batman

OKay it had to have been a CH since i tried the same thing again and it was a 2HKO the next time around haha.

Gotcha, that sounds more reasonable. Still a useful 2HKO, since most Bronzong can't do much to Zapdos except Screen or Explode.

Oh really? Well that's excellent news! My original first UU team has a few pokes done, so i can finish that up perhaps? Although i'm really busy lately packing up and preparing to leave.

Well, I wouldn't worry about it if you don't have the time. When are you leaving?

It doesn't add coverage but Dragon Pulse can hit Dragons. I don't know how much harder, but he resists them with Steel typing, just gotta watch for those Fire Blasts.

Yeah, Dragon Pulse is a pretty good filler move in general.

I like Meganium too much to not use him haha. Maybe a Grass could work as your ?. Or Clefable! Yeah! Clefable!

Oh yeah, Clefable would be awesome. The trouble will be finding room for it. Fortunately it DOES get about every special attack in the game xD

But when will you have access to Mismagius? Depends on when you get the National Dex and all, doesn't it?

Well, I was gonna trade over a Misdreavus holding a Dusk Stone, do you think I won't be able to evolve it? I'll have to check on that before I decide on my team. A ghost type would be nice, but Misdreavus won't cut it.

Missy with Nasty Plot?!? now that is so crazy. And Feraligatr with a priority move just is mean haha.

Yeah there are a few other interesting ones too, like Recover Quagsire. I think we're still waiting on all the Move Tutors, though. Those ones I have mentioned are HG/SS egg moves.

I was considering, but when he sent out Aerodactyl i decided to knock him down, then he sent in Latias who was already Toxic'd, so i went with it.

That's awesome, I may have to forego HP Electric for Toxic on the Vaporeon I am about to EV train. Still wrestling with the spread, though. 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA sounds fine, but I wonder about 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpD, 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpA, 188 HP / 252 Def / x SpA / x SpD, etc...if the first one works for you, I guess I may as well go for it. You also have that S/T Snorlax, but I just EV trained mine to be a Curselax. I don't have a Status Absorber on my team, which is sometimes annoying. I could have made a S/T Gyarados I suppose, but the ability to Taunt is very important, and DD is much more threatening (although Bulky Gyara has relatively little power, haha).



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