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11:28 AM on 12/05/11 
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im ready for this weekend.

khan is my boy.





11:36 AM on 12/05/11 
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i just dont see any other fighter that makes financial sense for cotto.

its not worth it for him in this stage of his career to take any unnecessary risks.

and well i agree with your assessment of top rank protecting junior (who doesnt?) i think he might do better than you expect.

for two reasons:

1) he IS improving. not saying he is as skilled as cotto but he is definitely formidable.

2) he is naturally bigger and has a decent chin.

if i had to guess i'd say the next year or so goes something like this.....pac/mayweather gets made for may, cotto takes on a semi-credible opponent to stay busy, canelo and jr have a tune up before fighting each other in the middle or later part of the year, cotto/mayweather happens late in the year (after mayweather cruises to an easy decision win over pac), and then cotto fights the winner of the canelo/jr fight in spring of 2013 to continue the great mexico vs. puerto rico rivalry.

i'm sure chavez jr. wouldn't embarrass himself against cotto at this point, but i wouldn't give him much chance to win.
11:40 AM on 12/05/11 
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if i had to guess i'd say the next year or so goes something like this.....pac/mayweather gets made for may, cotto takes on a semi-credible opponent to stay busy, canelo and jr have a tune up before fighting each other in the middle or later part of the year, cotto/mayweather happens late in the year (after mayweather cruises to an easy decision win over pac), and then cotto fights the winner of the canelo/jr fight in spring of 2013 to continue the great mexico vs. puerto rico rivalry.

i'm sure chavez jr. wouldn't embarrass himself against cotto at this point, but i wouldn't give him much chance to win.

easy UD win for mayweather eh?

haha so was this your assessment before the pacquiao/marquez fight as well?

just curious...
11:42 AM on 12/05/11 
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im ready for this weekend.

khan is my boy.






aside from a somewhat suspect chin, khan has all the tools to be a great fighter.
11:44 AM on 12/05/11 
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easy UD win for mayweather eh?

haha so was this your assessment before the pacquiao/marquez fight as well?

just curious...

over the years i've gone back and forth, but my most consistent opinion has been that mayweather would be able to outbox pac......i think trevor/ghostyouare can vouch for that.

edit:i won't lie though, the latest marquez fight has had some influence on my thinking.
11:44 AM on 12/05/11 
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aside from a somewhat suspect chin khan has all the tools to be a great fighter.

absolutely.
11:47 AM on 12/05/11 
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over the years i've gone back and forth, but my most consistent opinion has been that mayweather would be able to outbox pac......trevor/ghostyouare can vouch for that.

ha alright fair enough.

i have pacquiao by SD.
11:59 AM on 12/05/11 
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ha alright fair enough.

i have pacquiao by SD.

if the fight happens it's going to hinge on whether or not pac can get to mayweather with his straight left hand, or if mayweather is able to counter it effectively.....mayweather has been susceptible to that punch in the past (one of the few drawbacks of his shoulder rolling defense).....but i think he'll be able to more or less neutralize it against pac.
12:04 PM on 12/05/11 
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if the fight happens it's going to hinge on whether or not pac can get to mayweather with his straight left hand, or if mayweather is able to counter it effectively.....mayweather has been susceptible to that punch in the past (one of the few drawbacks of his shoulder rolling defense).....but i think he'll be able to neutralize it against pac.

yup. all of this is truth.

except for the last part...

pacman has punches coming at so many angles and comes forward ALL the time and puts constant pressure that i dont think mayweather will be able to hold him off for twelve rounds.
12:18 PM on 12/05/11 
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yup. all of this is truth.

except for the last part...

pacman has punches coming at so many angles and comes forward ALL the time and puts constant pressure that i dont think mayweather will be able to hold him off for twelve rounds.

nah.

pac has shown that he really doesn't respond all that well to being countered (he becomes much more tentative and attempts to box), and mayweather is one of the best pure boxer/counter-punchers to have ever put on a pair of gloves.
12:25 PM on 12/05/11 
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nah.

pac has shown that he really doesn't respond all that well to being countered (he becomes much more tentative and attempts to box), and mayweather is one of the best pure boxer/counter-punchers to have ever put on a pair of gloves.

now this is truth.

buuuuuuut pacmans chin is better than mayweathers.

that being said i think pacmans punches would be more effective than mayweathers.

not to mention pacman has more power than mayweather.
02:28 PM on 12/05/11 
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now this is truth.

buuuuuuut pacmans chin is better than mayweathers.

that being said i think pacmans punches would be more effective than mayweathers.

not to mention pacman has more power than mayweather.

i don't know how you can say that. it goes without saying he's never been ko'd and mayweather's only officially been knocked down once in his career......and that was because he hurt his hand. zab judah got him to touch the canvas, but mayweather wasn't hurt and it wasn't ruled a knockdown.

pac on the other hand has been ko'd twice by people no one has heard from since.

if pac can't land any punches it doesn't really matter how effective they COULD be.

i don't know who's got more power. neither knocked out marquez or mosely, both ko'd hatton, and while pac got the tko against de la hoya it wasn't because of punching power as much as it was de la hoya quitting out of embarrassment.
05:09 PM on 12/05/11 
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i don't know how you can say that. it goes without saying he's never been ko'd and mayweather's only officially been knocked down once in his career......and that was because he hurt his hand. zab judah got him to touch the canvas, but it wasn't ruled a knockdown.

pac on the other hand has been ko'd twice by people no one has heard from since.

if pac can't land any punches it doesn't really matter how effective they COULD be.

true.

your hands cant hit what your eyes cant see. (a little ali for ya.)

so i suppose it comes down to if pacmans offense can infiltrate moneys defense.

and how money reacts to pacmans punches.

as for the two fighters pacman has been defeated by... they were early in his career.

of course it doesnt look good compared to moneys undefeated record.

but i can say that manny hasnt ducked fighters the way floyd has.
05:43 PM on 12/06/11 
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as for the two fighters pacman has been defeated by... they were early in his career.

of course it doesnt look good compared to moneys undefeated record.

but i can say that manny hasnt ducked fighters the way floyd has.

sure, the ko's were early, but pac's been beaten by 3 fighters, and held to a draw by 2 others.....one of the losses and draws coming when he was already a well known champion.

floyd has ducked fights, but that doesn't change the fact that mayweather's style is almost perfect for neutralizing pacquiao.

i'm no floyd fan, and would prefer pac beating him, but it's just not very likely......at least not until mayweather's reflexes become slower.
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i don't know how you can say that. it goes without saying he's never been ko'd and mayweather's only officially been knocked down once in his career......and that was because he hurt his hand. zab judah got him to touch the canvas, but mayweather wasn't hurt and it wasn't ruled a knockdown.

pac on the other hand has been ko'd twice by people no one has heard from since.

if pac can't land any punches it doesn't really matter how effective they COULD be.

i don't know who's got more power. neither knocked out marquez or mosely, both ko'd hatton, and while pac got the tko against de la hoya it wasn't because of punching power as much as it was de la hoya quitting out of embarrassment.

Have you seen the videos of those fights? Manny was so skinny during those fights and incredibly reckless lol

Here is the video btw if anyone wants to see his first loss/ko




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