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Useful Pokemon Resources

General Information:

1. Serebii
Great Pokedex information for all generations. Lists all level up moves, locations, etc. Not the best place to find egg moves and how to breed them. Also has articles on game mechanics such as Shinys, EVs, and the Damage Formula. Also has good listings of all attacks and type matchups.

2. Smogon
Complete analysis for all Pokemon and all generations. Features suggested movesets, max stats, lists of move compatibility, and articles. Great resource for figuring out a moveset that might work for your team, or a reasonable EV spread.

3. Pokemon Elite 2000
Main draw on this website is the comprehensive collection of Pokemon sprites from all generations. Really handy for making Paint images of your top 10 favorite Pokemon. Just cool to look at otherwise. Also features a useful Pokedex that you may find better than Serebii's in some cases.

4. Bulbapedia
This wiki style resource has all kinds of information, including Pokedex and EV yield information for the GB games. If you are feeling like finding out things about the TCG, manga, or whatever else, all that is on here too. I would try the other pages first for specific information and the technical stuff, but this site is pretty comprehensive on a lot of topics.

Generation I/II Resources:

1. Crystal FAQ
This guide to Crystal is my number one resource for Generation 2. The most unique feature is that it has L50 stats for all Pokemon, given 0 stat experience. That means you can figure out the genes of any Pokemon you have by using rare candies to get it to L50. Very handy. Has a complete walkthrough and Pokedex, including egg moves and how to get them. Also features movesets that give a second opinion when the Smogon option doesn't seem to work for you.

2. Pokemon Strategy Guide
This is a great resource for Gen I/II battling. Not only does it go over many of the important equations and formulas, it provides battle tips, team building guides, and analysis of every pokemon for Generation I and II.

3. Breeding Guide
This comprehensive guide for breeding outlines everything you could need to know for getting the right moves on your Pokemon. First place to go if you need to know how to pass moves, stats, which moves you can pass, chain breeding, etc.

4. Poke FAQs
This site has helpful guides on understanding Hidden Power, catching the legendary dogs, and also a great formula for calculating your Pokemon's genes at any given level (provided no stat exp has been gained). Being able to approximate genes is very useful in determining which Pokemon to keep for your team.

Generation III/IV Resources:

1. Pokemon Ruby FAQ
Also applies to Sapphire, naturally. This is a good place to go for walkthrough related information, as well as Pokemon locations and rarities.

2. Pokemon Diamond FAQ
This is the mother of all FAQs. It is over 4mb on notepad, thousands of pages in Word. It has EVERYTHING you could think of. Go here first for Diamond and Pearl.

3. List of Pokemon by Effort Value Yield
One of the best references for EV training, this chart gives every pokemon and what Effort Values they will give away when you defeat them. Find something that gives the value you want that is common, and you are on your way! Note you can also find these values in the Serebii Pokedex.

4. Gen III/IV Breeding Guide
A great resource for all the new intricacies of breeding in the IV/EV generations. Contains basic gene passing information, egg groups, steps to hatch and methods, and even tricky stuff like getting the hidden power you want.

5. IV Calculator
An invaluable resource for approximating genes of your newly hatched or caught Pokemon. When using this calculator, keep these two things in mind: 1. If you have trained your Pokemon at all, you must know which EVs it has gained to get the correct output from the calculator, and 2. The calculator has poor resolution at lower levels, so take its results with a grain of salt unless you are able to rare candy the Pokemon to a higher level.

6. Natures and Traits Explained
This page (in the replies at the bottom) shows which traits correspond to which IVs, which is helpful for figuring out what your Pokemon's highest IV is exactly. Since the calculator is an estimation under L100, you can use traits to see if you have a max stat or not. Handy page I use a lot.

7. Shoddy Battle
The foremost simulator for online Pokemon battling, Shoddy Battle is a great resource to practice competitive battling and test out Pokemon before you create them in the DS games. Instructions for getting started can be found here.

[SanePsychotic]

Ha, great title!

[chipdip18]

We're kind of awesome like that.

[TachyonEvan]

Now I'm excited that I get to make Infernape On High! (Called it last thread, posting it here.)

Seriously, though, here's to 5000 more pokeposts filled with mirth and mystery.

[donwagenblast]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[chipdip18]

Originally Posted by Troggy

LOL...u get the boost?

Occasionally. Getting the boost seriously owns though. It really pisses of other opponents i can tell.

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Someone told me that, it may be true. He said when his rating was higher, he was seeing basically the same Smogon team over and over again, but his rating has dropped and he doesn't battle it anymore, haha. I don't see it much either since mine is even lower than his.

I see. That would be fair of them to do that for sure. Haha what team was he seeing? That means it's probably one of the better versions of an OU team.

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Well as long as you can counter him some other way, it's not a problem.

True dat

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Oh yeah, forgot about Starmie. Great check to pretty much all Infernapes.

Totally. I'm starting to wonder how i won battles without Starmie.

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Yeah your team sounds pretty good to me.

Thank you sir! Don't know if i've ever beat you though.

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Well, it's one of his better options outside of Hidden Power. Keep in mind though that neutral Thunderbolt is more powerful than SE Ominous Wind.

Okay i will keep that in mind for sure. Hidden Power Dark would be nice but so cheap to make haha.

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hahaha, maybe they are hoping you are running some slow bulkier Gliscor ???

Dude i guess so. It's weird any way you look at it.

Originally Posted by Troggy

hahahaha good stories. Honestly, most of the time Smeargle passes Belly Drum I end up OHKO'ing the switch in with some powerful attack. So funny, but it happens. Yeah I'd probably send out Heatran against Porygon-Z, provided it didn't use T-bolt or HP Fighting.

Well this one was using CB Tri Attack, since he had pretty much seen my team. Could have used a Ghost there haha.

[TachyonEvan]

I'm also making a resolution to make the top 5 this time and actually POST in here.

[FueledByFrodo]

Hooray new thread!

[Troggy]

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Occasionally. Getting the boost seriously owns though. It really pisses of other opponents i can tell.

hahahaha I hope it does

Originally Posted by chipdip18

I see. That would be fair of them to do that for sure. Haha what team was he seeing? That means it's probably one of the better versions of an OU team.

Basically a standard smogon team copied and pasted a bunch of times. Whatever is trendiest at the moment.

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Totally. I'm starting to wonder how i won battles without Starmie.

Well, if Starmie works for you, then that's great. It's certainly always been a great Pokemon.

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Thank you sir! Don't know if i've ever beat you though.

I dunno, maybe my team matches up really well against yours.

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Okay i will keep that in mind for sure. Hidden Power Dark would be nice but so cheap to make haha.

HP Dark only has 10 BP more than Ominous Wind, and no side effect. I'll take the outside chance for PWN.

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Well this one was using CB Tri Attack, since he had pretty much seen my team. Could have used a Ghost there haha.

There are times I miss having a ghost, but as long as you have Steels, you have most stuff resisted already. If you need help against choiced users, try Protect.

[chipdip18]

Originally Posted by Troggy

Basically a standard smogon team copied and pasted a bunch of times. Whatever is trendiest at the moment.

Super duper lame. I'm all about non-trendy. Half of my team is trendy though haha.

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Well, if Starmie works for you, then that's great. It's certainly always been a great Pokemon.

Yeah, too bad it took me forever to realize it! Great typing, great stats, and great movepool. Basically everything you need for a great pokemon.

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I dunno, maybe my team matches up really well against yours.

Maebeh.

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HP Dark only has 10 BP more than Ominous Wind, and no side effect. I'll take the outside chance for PWN.

Yeah that side effect is the best side effect too.

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There are times I miss having a ghost, but as long as you have Steels, you have most stuff resisted already. If you need help against choiced users, try Protect.

Hmmm very good points all around. I need to switch in Metagross more for that reason.

[Troggy]

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Super duper lame. I'm all about non-trendy. Half of my team is trendy though haha.

hahaha you're doing your own thing. I feel bad for using Mence/Heatran, but they make it so I can use the other guys without losing all the time.

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Yeah, too bad it took me forever to realize it! Great typing, great stats, and great movepool. Basically everything you need for a great pokemon.

Needs 5 moveslots. Or 6. Rapid Spin/Recover/Grass Knot/Ice Beam/Tbolt/Surf

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Yeah that side effect is the best side effect too.

Yes, it rules so hard. :D

Originally Posted by chipdip18

Hmmm very good points all around. I need to switch in Metagross more for that reason.

Abuse his resists, he is a pain to get rid of once he's in, especially with the elemental punches on your side.

[raptorz44]

I had no idea the original thread was about Pokemon. I thought it was about Take This To Your Grave, and you guys had just gotten really off-topic. I only occasionally went in that thread

[Chromefox]

I came in purely to compliment you on your title.

This reminds me I need to pick my game back up again.

[chipdip18]

Originally Posted by Troggy

hahaha you're doing your own thing. I feel bad for using Mence/Heatran, but they make it so I can use the other guys without losing all the time.

That's a good enough excuse though. Use two trendy pokes and get four for free haha.

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Needs 5 moveslots. Or 6. Rapid Spin/Recover/Grass Knot/Ice Beam/Tbolt/Surf

Would not even be close to fair haha. I do so well even without Recover, so if Recover was there it would just be brutal. I want to write out everything he covers just for kicks. Fire, Water, Grass, Ground, Rock, Flying, and Dragon. Basically everything that i need him to cover. Love the guy.

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Abuse his resists, he is a pain to get rid of once he's in, especially with the elemental punches on your side.

[/quote] True. His Ground/Ice attacking and abuse of speed with Agility is fun. Then go out with a bang. Fire hurts him pretty bad though.

[TachyonEvan]

Originally Posted by Chromefox

This reminds me I need to pick my game back up again.

It's good to inspire.