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10:29 AM on 11/11/09 
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Been reading more and more about the Gaza Strip and the history of the region since Israel was created. Some very interesting and pretty disheartening events have gone on there.

How does everyone here feel about it? I'd love to learn more and get everyone's opinions.
11:03 AM on 11/11/09 
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Hopefully a secular state.

You don't think the damage and hard feelings (much too light of a term, I know, but I don't know what else to put) won't be too strong for them to overcome?

What kind of timeline are you thinking? (Not meant to sound like I'm on the attack if it comes across that way)
11:24 AM on 11/11/09 
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That's why I acknowledge the need for a middle period of two-states which would need to work together to peacefully coexist. Dom brought this up once and I never really considered the leap beyond just two states based against each other on something like religion.

As for a timeline, who knows?

Seems like it would take a big shift in the attitudes of most of the major countries and powers in the world. Seems everyone with any sway is behind Israel and only Israel.
07:48 AM on 11/13/09 
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I've been to the West Bank and Israel. As of right now, Palestine has no chance of existing, not even close.

Why do you say that? (I'm just really interested)
08:08 AM on 04/23/10 
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Can someone find the gaza thread from awhile ago? I can't seem to find it on my phone.

This one?
08:19 AM on 04/23/10 
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Nah we had a really big one going around a year ago. This is the one I found too. I think eda created the one I'm talking about.

I don't see it anywhere, and I searched 'Gaza', 'Israel', 'Palestine'...nothin'.

Sorry.
08:25 AM on 04/23/10 
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It's all good. Thanks for trying.

I think Anthony found it anyway, but now we have 3 Gaza threads on the front page,
08:12 PM on 05/31/10 
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Humans are so silly.
02:43 PM on 06/03/10 
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Fixed for maximum ZING factor!

THEY WERE JUST DEFENDING THEMSELVES!!!

Have you even SEEN how good the Palestinians have it?! Might as well be shacking up with Donald Trump, spoiled little rabble-rousing bastards!



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09:25 AM on 06/06/10 
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More or less what machu wrote above your post. Human error? A planned boarding of a ship isn't human error. It's disgusting.

I've always considered 9/11 less a terrorist attack and more pilot error.
09:37 AM on 06/06/10 
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Haha. It's just mindboggling to me that this could be construed as human error. Or that the israeli's were being defensive. It was a ship full of medicine, food and other nonviolent supplies.

There was orange juice and gasoline on that ship. Haven't you seen Fight Club? Tyler Durden said that could make napalm. NAPALM! IN THE HANDS OF TERRORISTS!!!

03:15 PM on 10/01/10 
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Christ. Those are 100% accurate figures?
07:07 PM on 10/01/10 
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With each graph they give a link to their sources, which each has about 4 sources for each statistic. According to the site, they check the numbers against the major media outlets from the area.

Well that's...well, I don't really know of a word to describe that. Let's stick with 'disgusting' for now.
12:11 PM on 11/26/10 
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I love how our military gets a free pass because they're not 'terrorists'.
02:45 PM on 11/26/10 
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