[open mind]

Originally Posted by Spikedeheld

Anyone who has read actual history books about Oslo and Balfour and.. everything.. would know that technically Israel does NOT 'occupy' territories, palestine was never a 'state', and if the palestinians wanted peace, they could've gotten it years ago. Most palestinians want the destruction of the state of Israel, it's that "simple". I support Netanyahu 100%.

And for anyone believing media and hates Israel, boycott Israel.. but not before seeing this:

i'll take the great minds and scrap the needless pain in the ass of a country.

[Lueda Alia]

I find this whole situation extremely depressing and I hate thinking about it.

[Deadbolt23]

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...216182630.html

Oh dear.

[Lueda Alia]

I was just reading about that now. I can't even wrap my mind around this. Wow.

[Lueda Alia]

I feel like this just ruined my day now and it's not even 8 am yet. Disgusting.

[GeeBee]

Originally Posted by Spikedeheld

Anyone who has read actual history books about Oslo and Balfour and.. everything.. would know that technically Israel does NOT 'occupy' territories, palestine was never a 'state', and if the palestinians wanted peace, they could've gotten it years ago. Most palestinians want the destruction of the state of Israel, it's that "simple". I support Netanyahu 100%.

And for anyone believing media and hates Israel, boycott Israel.. but not before seeing this:

Insinuate that everyone who disagrees is uneducated, make history seem black and white, then close with an appeal to emotion.

Thanks for visiting the thread, Glenn Beck.

[Zeran]

Originally Posted by Lueda Alia

I was just reading about that now. I can't even wrap my mind around this. Wow.

about sums up how i feel.

[Midget Pirates]

before everyone predictably points the finger at the Israelis as the aggressors, please take time to read more of the whole story.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/3...eaves-10-dead/

and i realize hotair isn't an unbiased source, but at least think you should read this to at least see where the Israelis are coming from before you condemn them.

[Love As Arson]

Originally Posted by Spikedeheld

Most palestinians want the destruction of the state of Israel, it's that "simple". I support Netanyahu 100%.

But there are already indications the delay is eroding support for the two-state solution, the centerpiece of peace efforts. Peace talks – which have dragged on for decades with continuous territorial losses for Palestinians – have growing numbers of Palestinians giving up hope for one Jewish state and one Palestinian state coexisting between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean.

A joint poll released this week by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and the Harry S. Truman Research Institute for the Advancement of Peace at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem found that support for the two-state solution among Palestinians dropped from 64 percent in December to 57 percent in early March. That implied shift toward a one-state solution, sometimes referred to as a bi-national state, came after announcements this year for a number of new Israeli housing programs in East Jerusalem.

Nabil Kukali, director of the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion, interpreted the results in an interview with The Jerusalem Post. "On the whole, Palestinians support the peace process, but there are some changes in attitudes towards the two-state solution... the Palestinians feel hopeless and they don't think the Israelis will give the Palestinians one meter of their land." About 71 percent of Israelis were found to favor a two-state solution in the poll.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Globa...tlement-freeze

[GeeBee]

Originally Posted by Midget Pirates

before everyone predictably points the finger at the Israelis as the aggressors, please take time to read more of the whole story.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/3...eaves-10-dead/

and i realize hotair isn't an unbiased source, but at least think you should read this to at least see where the Israelis are coming from before you condemn them.

Israel isn't "coming from" the position of peace-monger lately.

[pennie]

It's been sickening to listen to the Israeli spokemen and politicians actually trying to justify this. This was an act of piracy and murder in international waters on a ship flying the flag of a NATO member.Disgusting

[Midget Pirates]

Originally Posted by pennie

It's been sickening to listen to the Israeli spokemen and politicians actually trying to justify this. This was an act of piracy and murder in international waters on a ship flying the flag of a NATO member.Disgusting

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/3...sraeli-troops/

[Midget Pirates]

Originally Posted by pennie

It's been sickening to listen to the Israeli spokemen and politicians actually trying to justify this. This was an act of piracy and murder in international waters on a ship flying the flag of a NATO member.Disgusting

also, this puts an end to your "international waters" argument.

"Kershner also reports without clarification the Turkish claim that Israel’s forcible boarding of the ships was a violation of international law: “Israel launched this operation in international waters and to a ship flagged white, which is unacceptable under any clause of the international law,” the head of the Turkish Grand National Assembly’s Foreign Affairs Commission, Murat Mercan, said on the Turkish station NTV. Yet, according to the San Remo Manual, it is permissible under rule 67(a) to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.”

http://www.mererhetoric.com/2010/05/...idf-commandos/

might also want to do some background reading on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2...e_G aza_Strip

[pennie]

Originally Posted by Midget Pirates

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/3...sraeli-troops/

So they shouldn't of defended themselves?

[pennie]

Originally Posted by Midget Pirates

also, this puts an end to your "international waters" argument.

"Kershner also reports without clarification the Turkish claim that Israel’s forcible boarding of the ships was a violation of international law: “Israel launched this operation in international waters and to a ship flagged white, which is unacceptable under any clause of the international law,” the head of the Turkish Grand National Assembly’s Foreign Affairs Commission, Murat Mercan, said on the Turkish station NTV. Yet, according to the San Remo Manual, it is permissible under rule 67(a) to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.”

http://www.mererhetoric.com/2010/05/...idf-commandos/

might also want to do some background reading on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2...e_G aza_Strip

'(T)he Israeli blockade and closures over the past two years had pushed the Palestinian economy into such a stage of ‘de-development’ that as much as US $2.4 billion. had been drained out of the economy of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip

Are you aware of the reasons for the ship? If you do and you still try and defend what happened,you're a scary person.

What Israel did was so fucked up. There's no excuse.