[TachyonEvan]

Originally Posted by Miss Heartcore

As a huge, huge fan of Ultimate Spiderman, I think they really captured the mixture of humor and sadness that is reiterated throughout the series…though I think there’s almost too much sadness. Spiderman can be funny and really cheesy, but they toned that down heavily.

It was a dark movie, but I think that's what needed to happen, coming off the over-the-top ridiculousness of Raimi's trilogy. This felt mostly like a set-up movie to me, and yes, Spider-Man has a pretty dark origin. There's a lot of darkness in Spider-Man both in the Ultimate and Marvel universes. I understand what you mean, but I really thought that they nailed the tone. There were plenty of moments of levity, and Garfield was very quick-witted.

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They also toned down his genius. They showed some with the formulas and the gadgets but nothing really with how smart he was in school/in general. Overall, I don’t think Garfield is the perfect Peter Parker, but I think he brought life to it better than others in the past.

Really? I thought that was an element of Parker that this film NAILED. Between him building the web-shooters, him (sort of) figuring out what's going on with his father's formula, his drive and passion for science and involvement with Connors... I thought things like that (and his answering the question when he was masquerading as an intern) highlighted that very well. DEFINITELY in comparison to Raimi's trilogy, but even well on its own right.

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Really random, but I liked what they did with Flash…perhaps they could have shown more bullying, but there wasn’t really time for that. Like in Ultimate Spiderman, they gave him a more human side that was respectable.

I LOVED their setup of Flash. Especially him wearing the shirt at the end... Awesome foreshadowing for Flash Thompson's future role.

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I think this movie took more risks with emotions and character deaths, which will make killing off Gwen that much harder to deal with. I’m curious if they will include it at all…I think they would have to.

They absolutely will. It's like with Nolan's Batman trilogy - people have certain expectations, and those expectations become so commonplace that they HAVE to address that part of comic history.

[LetterBomb31]

I really need to see this again!

[omgrawr]

Finally saw this last night. Very good movie. One question I have is, did Aunt May figure out who peter really was at the end of the movie?

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

Originally Posted by omgrawr

Finally saw this last night. Very good movie. One question I have is, did Aunt May figure out who peter really was at the end of the movie?

I was wondering that myself on second watch. It seemed like it might be one of those unspoken understandings.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

So it's definitely not Norman Osborn in the cell at the end (as many in here figured):

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Capone: Okay, what do you think about that ending?

RI: Well, Connors is basically locked up in a very high-security mental institution.

Capone: We were debating whether it was a prison or a mental institute.

RI: It's not a zoo. [laughs] I kept seeing it as maybe a mixture of both. Then a representative from OsCorp appears miraculously in the room. How he gets in there and how he leaves, we don’t know. Maybe we will find out. But it’s not Norman Osborn.

Capone: It’s not? You can say that?

RI: Yeah. But it is someone who is in the employ of Norman Osborn without question.

Capone: Someone we're familiar with, who we don’t know is employed by Osborn?

RI: Yeah.

Capone: Okay, interesting.

RI: Who knows? Maybe he will be the next bad guy; we’ll see.

From an interview with Rhys Ifans

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56771

[blimpcityhero11]

So, Fox is going to allow Marc Webb to shoot TASM2 if he commits to directing two movies for them. Even the Marvel properties they don't own are sabotaged by Fox.

[Beer4Breakfast]

Hate to be negative but I was not into this movie AT ALL. I feel this movie got way too much praise because it's so shiny and new. For everyone who thought the Raimi movies were cheesy (which they were even if you like them you can't deny that) this movie was just as bad. Although I thought this one was a swing and a miss I do think the next movie has potential now that they got the origin story out of the way. I just honestly think this movie won't age well at all.

[OurLadyCoolbean]

Originally Posted by Beer4Breakfast

Hate to be negative but I was not into this movie AT ALL. I feel this movie got way too much praise because it's so shiny and new. For everyone who thought the Raimi movies were cheesy (which they were even if you like them you can't deny that) this movie was just as bad. Although I thought this one was a swing and a miss I do think the next movie has potential now that they got the origin story out of the way. I just honestly think this movie won't age well at all.

I kind of agree with you. Raimi's films were tonally flawed (major cheese factor), but ASM was structurally flawed IMO.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

I definitely understand the complaints as well. I enjoyed the film personally, but a lot was clearly left on the cutting room floor (and there's a ton of evidence out there to support that) and I wasn't a huge fan of the score on the second viewing. I liked the soundtrack (Coldplay, The Shins, etc.) but the Horner score was distracting at times (for example, I don't think it worked at all during the school fight scene between Lizard and Spidey). I like the movie, but I think the sequel will be better.

[LetterBomb31]

Originally Posted by Beer4Breakfast

Hate to be negative but I was not into this movie AT ALL. I feel this movie got way too much praise because it's so shiny and new. For everyone who thought the Raimi movies were cheesy (which they were even if you like them you can't deny that) this movie was just as bad. Although I thought this one was a swing and a miss I do think the next movie has potential now that they got the origin story out of the way. I just honestly think this movie won't age well at all.

I completely disagree with you. This film was nowhere near as cheesy as Raimi's movies.

[ironoption]

Originally Posted by LetterBomb31

I completely disagree with you. This film was nowhere near as cheesy as Raimi's movies.

It wasn't as cheesy, but it was near it, haha. The only thing that saved it was the emotional/dramatic aspect. The action/CGI was just as bad as Raimi's.

[Beer4Breakfast]

The CGI was brutal at points. I can sympathize its definitely not an easy task bringing a giant lizard to life but he did look like he was directly inspired by the gumbas from the super Mario bros movie.

The fight scenes left a lot to be desired. On the positive side I did like how spiderman moved more like a spider this time around. There was just nothing iconic or even comparable to scenes like the train battle from SM2.

And for everyone who complained about how much spiderman took off his mask in the Raimi movies I haven't seen anyone even mention how little time he spent with his mask on in this movie. It seemed like he was without mask way more than he was with. Peter seemed to have no care in the world about concealing his secret identity. By the end of this movie it felt like too many people knew Peter was spiderman. The great thing about him having a secret identity is that it creates for great moments of tension with him trying to make sure no one finds out he's spiderman. This movie severely lacked that drama as no one even seemed to react when they found out they just seemed to immediately accept it.

And the score was VERY distracting and at times downright laughable

[RyanPm40]

In ultimate spider-man, a ton of people knew his identity. It was like a running joke that he sucked at keeping it a secret. Dunno how different it is from ASM, but the movie seems to draw a lot of influence from USM.

[WTG]

Finally saw it. I liked it a lot.

[purebosh]

This was alright. Not nearly as bad as Raimi's abominations, but the action/CGI wasn't very good. It was at its best when the mask was off.