Originally Posted by chanc

Indeed, really helps when interviewers have knowledge of the band, just as they mentioned in the interview :p.

Okay, I will leave it to you to start a thread over there when I post my review later this week/early next week.

Originally Posted by Steve Henderson

Okay, I will leave it to you to start a thread over there when I post my review later this week/early next week.

Someone will probably get to it before me, but if they don't I will :D. Better get it out before Alternative Press' review which is going to be out on 9/7.

Originally Posted by chanc

Someone will probably get to it before me, but if they don't I will :D. Better get it out before Alternative Press' review which is going to be out on 9/7.

I will beat that easily. So much pressure!

Originally Posted by Steve Henderson

Blind? I am guessing that is as deep as your assessments of bands go - on a visual level. FYI, they are NOTHING like FFTL and spencersface fucking made you look silly. Good try.

Haha! They may not wear makeup but they are definitely still are trying to fit in that 'scene' if you will. Seriously, do you really think they're that different than a lot of the other bands that are on this website? I think not. So before you start calling ME names think about it. They're basically the same, except Saosin still has yet to release a full length, and when they do it'll be the same as everything else.

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

Haha! They may not wear makeup but they are definitely still are trying to fit in that 'scene' if you will. Seriously, do you really think they're that different than a lot of the other bands that are on this website? I think not. So before you start calling ME names think about it. They're basically the same, except Saosin still has yet to release a full length, and when they do it'll be the same as everything else.

a) I never called you names.
b) They do not really sound like any other bands in "the scene." If you can name three, I will consider you the victor.
c) Some of us have heard the full length, and no, it is NOT even close to the same as anything else out there. So stop speculating, please.

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

Seriously, do you really think they're that different than a lot of the other bands that are on this website?

There is no doubt that they are.

Originally Posted by Steve Henderson

a) I never called you names.
b) They do not really sound like any other bands in "the scene." If you can name three, I will consider you the victor.
c) Some of us have heard the full length, and no, it is NOT even close to the same as anything else out there. So stop speculating, please.

3 Similar Bands:
1. Circa Survive (obvious)
2. Chiodos
3. The Fall of Troy
4. Sound of Animals Fighting

I even included a fourth. Oh, and I looked under similar artists over at last.fm and guess who was similar artist #4? Take a guess?

From First to Last

Suck it.

Just read the entire interview, Steve. Every last word. My eyes hurt. I hope you're happy.

But it was really good. Interviews can be so nerve-racking and awkward but it seems as though everything went smoothly. And just like you asked thoughtful and inventive questions, they shot back with extensive and creative answers.

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

3 Similar Bands:
1. Circa Survive (obvious)
2. Chiodos
3. The Fall of Troy
4. Sound of Animals Fighting

I even included a fourth. Oh, and I looked under similar artists over at last.fm and guess who was similar artist #4? Take a guess?

From First to Last

Suck it.

Good god, if you think those bands are similar, you are more than a little dim. Just because Amazon or last.fm tell you something, doesn't mean it is true.

It's ok, though. When the record comes out, you can get it, love it, and continue to pan it to preserve your internet credibility. I won't tell a soul.

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

3 Similar Bands:
1. Circa Survive (obvious)
2. Chiodos
3. The Fall of Troy
4. Sound of Animals Fighting

I even included a fourth. Oh, and I looked under similar artists over at last.fm and guess who was similar artist #4? Take a guess?

From First to Last

Suck it.

Listen to those bands and listen to Saosin and then try to say they sound the same. Just because Anthony was in Saosin originally doesn't mean that they sound like Circa Survive. In fact if you read the article you'd see that Anthony didn't even participate in making the music on Translating the Name. Anthony and Cove's voices have a similar range, but are still completely different. Considering Cove doesn't scream, I don't see how Saosin can begin to sound like Fall of Troy.

You're entitled to your opinion, but it seems senseless to those who are actually obsessed with music to simply throw a band in the bin with a bunch of other bands that don't sound anything like them.

We haven't called you any names man; you're just making empty, false claims to distort a respectable band's image. You continue to say Saosin fits into the scene, but have not offered a single factual piece of evidence (last.fm similar artists is not factual, it's wrong) to support your claims.

Originally Posted by Steve Henderson

Good god, if you think those bands are similar, you are more than a little dim. Just because Amazon or last.fm tell you something, doesn't mean it is true.

It's ok, though. When the record comes out, you can get it, love it, and continue to pan it to preserve your internet credibility. I won't tell a soul.

I'm not saying I won't like it because I definitely like those other bands as well. What I'm saying is that they're really not that different, And everyone posting in here seem to think they are.

I'm also saying From First to Last went from Epitaph (a respectable "indie" label) to a major, while Saosin went straight to Capitol and have done nothing for them (the label). If you ask me who is working harder the answer is definitely clear. It's certainly not Saosin. And you know what? I'm not afraid to say that I listen to both FFTL and Saosin. I also think that the a lot of the people in here with their comments about FFTL are extremely out of place because Saosin is a part of the 'scene' just like FFTL (both bands who's music I happen to enjoy). BUT Saosin obviously are arrogant ass-holes who don't know their place because they're running their mouth without doing anything to BACK IT UP. It would be like me criticizing your interview skills and me having not interviewed anyone in the past to credit myself with. Saosin are incredibly lucky to be where they are, but they need to learn their place because they really do seem like douchebags.

(A little bit more proof to back up the "scene" claim. They were on warped this year/ they've toured with bands such as AFI/THEY'RE FREAKIN' DOING TASTE OF CHAOS (that one should be reason in itself for you to realize it))

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

I'm not saying I won't like it because I definitely like those other bands as well. What I'm saying is that they're really not that different, And everyone posting in here seem to think they are.

I'm also saying From First to Last went from Epitaph (a respectable "indie" label) to a major, while Saosin went straight to Capitol and have done nothing for them (the label). If you ask me who is working harder the answer is definitely clear. It's certainly not Saosin. And you know what? I'm not afraid to say that I listen to both FFTL and Saosin. I also think that the a lot of the people in here with their comments about FFTL are extremely out of place because Saosin is a part of the 'scene' just like FFTL (both bands who's music I happen to enjoy). BUT Saosin obviously are arrogant ass-holes who don't know their place because they're running their mouth without doing anything to BACK IT UP. It would be like me criticizing your interview skills and me having not interviewed anyone in the past to credit myself with. Saosin are incredibly lucky to be where they are, but they need to learn their place because they really do seem like douchebags.

The # of CD releases isn't always a sign of whether a band is hard at work. They put out an EP. Lost some members. They've taken time to make things right for their first full length so that it's true to the band. They have been hard at work, ie. Cove taking vocal sessions with professionals etc. Just because they haven't spit out a bunch of shitty CDs for their label doesn't mean they aren't working.

If you think they're douchebags then that's your opinion. I think they're just honest about their opinions and because they haven't sugarcoated these opinions you're turned off by them. That's fine. I still think that the guys themselves are all cool guys who work really hard to maintain contact with their fanbase (which few bands actually do) and make really good music (which few bands do as well). If you've ever actually spoken with any of them, you'd know they're nice. You're taking their opinions out of context. But like I said, your opinion is your opinion, so go ahead and think that; but it seems unjustified.

Personally I didn't agree with them using the word ****** as much as they did, but at the same time you have to let go of such things. I really doubt they're making a negative statement against gay people. Instead they're displaying their discontent with the band Panic! At the Disco in a less-than-preferred manner. I use the word bitch and yet I'm not trying to make negative statements against female dogs. I have nothing wrong with female dogs, and I'm sure Saosin has nothing against gay people. However, both the word "******" and "bitch" are now common forms of slang and thus are used out of context. Get over it.

You still haven't given an actual reason why Saosin is a part of the scene.

Originally Posted by spencersface

You still haven't given an actual reason why Saosin is a part of the scene.

Maybe you should read the edit on my last post.

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

I'm not saying I won't like it because I definitely like those other bands as well. What I'm saying is that they're really not that different, And everyone posting in here seem to think they are.

I'm also saying From First to Last went from Epitaph (a respectable "indie" label) to a major, while Saosin went straight to Capitol and have done nothing for them (the label). If you ask me who is working harder the answer is definitely clear. It's certainly not Saosin. And you know what? I'm not afraid to say that I listen to both FFTL and Saosin. I also think that the a lot of the people in here with their comments about FFTL are extremely out of place because Saosin is a part of the 'scene' just like FFTL (both bands who's music I happen to enjoy). BUT Saosin obviously are arrogant ass-holes who don't know their place because they're running their mouth without doing anything to BACK IT UP. It would be like me criticizing your interview skills and me having not interviewed anyone in the past to credit myself with. Saosin are incredibly lucky to be where they are, but they need to learn their place because they really do seem like douchebags.

(A little bit more proof to back up the "scene" claim. They were on warped this year/ they've toured with bands such as AFI/THEY'RE FREAKIN' DOING TASTE OF CHAOS (that one should be reason in itself for you to realize it))

Saosin is going to do plenty for Capitol when they sell mucho amounts of the LP. I started writing my review for it today.

Also, keep in mind that bands do not always decide who they tour with. Just because Saosin is going out on ToC does not mean they identify themselves with those bands.

Originally Posted by sweetfootaction

Maybe you should read the edit on my last post.

Just because their label books them shows that are with other bands in the scene doesn't mean the music is part of the scene, or that they dress part of the scene, or that their art is part of the scene. That's still not proof. Check my bandersnatch.