[ohitsmark]

It shows how awesome America is when they started to riot last night after he was fired. Makkkkkkes so much sense. Sigh.

Also, great timing for the NBA to say the same thing we already knew.

[zachff]

Whole thing is sad more than anything else. It really does raise some flags/make you think about the people like McQuarie (spelled wrong probably) who made an initial report but never called the police. They placed more stock in keeping their jobs than in the safety of the kids.

[COREhorizon]

My favorite:

[TheRealJohnOC]

Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams

No he didn't? How did he do that? It's not Spaniar the kids are talking about here. It's the board for firing Paterno, the students are hardly even talking about Spaniar.

Spanier should've ended it when it happened and not let this go on as far as it did. The guy shouldn't have been allowed to come around afterwards.

[UnderMyDreams]

Originally Posted by TheRealJohnOC

Spanier should've ended it when it happened and not let this go on as far as it did. The guy shouldn't have been allowed to come around afterwards.

I agree... And I think he should have been fired. But e didn't throw anyone under the bus, and the students really aren't talking about him much.

[TheRealJohnOC]

Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams

I agree... And I think he should have been fired. But e didn't throw anyone under the bus, and the students really aren't talking about him much.

I sort of meant the students should be going after him. According to ESPN, there was a report where Spanier said Paterno should've went to the police and not the AD. Maybe that's true, maybe not.

[zeropunk16]

I was watching the ESPN coverage of the "riots" last night, and I didn't hear one Paterno supporter make a statement without saying "They should have let him retire at the end of the season". Really? Is their fucking football team more important in this matter?

And to be honest, the media has not been helping this situation that much either. I was appalled that at the press conference where they announced the firing of both the President and Paterno, that the FIRST question asked by a reporter was "Who will be coaching Saturday?".

[Tyler Vagyler]

Everything Mark May just said is correct.

[UnderMyDreams]

Originally Posted by zeropunk16

I was watching the ESPN coverage of the "riots" last night, and I didn't hear one Paterno supporter make a statement without saying "They should have let him retire at the end of the season". Really? Is their fucking football team more important in this matter?

And to be honest, the media has not been helping this situation that much either. I was appalled that at the press conference where they announced the firing of both the President and Paterno, that the FIRST question asked by a reporter was "Who will be coaching Saturday?".

The simple answer, yes, the football team is.

[Tyler Vagyler]

I don't think a kid with a cut on his eye compares to this. I understand your point and all, but if there is a member of your staff that is being accused on sexually assaulting young boys, you don't just let it slide under the door. You don't just tell your "superior" and then act like nothing happened. With the acquisitions and investigations surround Sandusky, JoePa should've have felt obligated, on behalf of the children and the university, to step in and take serious action. This isn't some petty crime that was ignored. It was the sexual abuse of young boys. Even if JoePa didn't fully know everything, the fact that there was suspicion surrounding Sandusky is enough to thoroughly investigate the situation. You don't risk it getting out of hand, as we now know it did. Everyone involved in the program should be let go. There's no excuse to not look into the situation more than they did.

[UnderMyDreams]

Originally Posted by Tyler Vagyler

I don't think a kid with a cut on his eye compares to this. I understand your point and all, but if there is a member of your staff that is being accused on sexually assaulting young boys, you don't just let it slide under the door. You don't just tell your "superior" and then act like nothing happened. With the acquisitions and investigations surround Sandusky, JoePa should've have felt obligated, on behalf of the children and the university, to step in and take serious action. This isn't some petty crime that was ignored. It was the sexual abuse of young boys. Even if JoePa didn't fully know everything, the fact that there was suspicion surrounding Sandusky is enough to thoroughly investigate the situation. You don't risk it getting out of hand, as we now know it did. Everyone involved in the program should be let go. There's no excuse to not look into the situation more than they did.

Yeah, what he saw was pretty intense. It's not something that anyone could take lightly. Especially from someone who had a very good relationship with Paterno. It wasn't some random kid that told him.

[xbrokendownx]

so what is the story with the dead prosecutor? is anyone talking about that?

i just saw this:

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...ay_gricar.html

[bobsheiskawy]

Originally Posted by Tyler Vagyler

I don't think a kid with a cut on his eye compares to this. I understand your point and all, but if there is a member of your staff that is being accused on sexually assaulting young boys, you don't just let it slide under the door. You don't just tell your "superior" and then act like nothing happened. With the acquisitions and investigations surround Sandusky, JoePa should've have felt obligated, on behalf of the children and the university, to step in and take serious action. This isn't some petty crime that was ignored. It was the sexual abuse of young boys. Even if JoePa didn't fully know everything, the fact that there was suspicion surrounding Sandusky is enough to thoroughly investigate the situation. You don't risk it getting out of hand, as we now know it did. Everyone involved in the program should be let go. There's no excuse to not look into the situation more than they did.

but, if he didn't know what was going on (ie he didn't see anything, only heard rumors and allegations) and told a superior, wouldn't he have expected the situation to be handled by said superior? it's not exactly in his job description to investigate his staff. i'm not saying he did everything the right way, but did he deserve to lose his job two months before he planned to retire due to the actions of one of his coaches outside of anything to do with the college or football program? probably not. i don't know a ton about the situation, but it seems like a very rash decision to fire him now, particularly if there's a chance of it being determined that he didn't actually do anything wrong later down the line. it's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" idea that we desire in a fair court system. i know it's not a court, but you should be able to see the parallel in the ideal.

[UnderMyDreams]

Originally Posted by xbrokendownx

so what is the story with the dead prosecutor? is anyone talking about that?

i just saw this:

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...ay_gricar.html

I really really don't think there's any connection. He was the prosecuyet in 1998. He dropped it, years later he gets murdered. The guy prosecuted some pretty bad criminals, based on what I've read. I'm sure it was one of them.

Years later, this all comes out. Just a coincidence.

Also next story down says its not the guy. That was literally the worst "journalism" I have seen in, I think ever.

[esposimi]

Today's front page of newspapers around here.