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11:33 PM on 01/19/12
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Hey, how much did they make Ace pay to buy out his contract so TEN could actually release music again?

Doesn't matter really, a contract is a contract. Most times they won't just let you out of it. That's true for most labels, not just DTR. If you don't fulfill the contracts terms, why would you expect to be released from it...?
11:33 PM on 01/19/12
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Hey, how much did they make Ace pay to buy out his contract so TEN could actually release music again?
The more important question is how many more albums did ace sell on drive-thru vs vagrant lol
11:34 PM on 01/19/12
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Why should they starve? They started a label out of nothing, worked their asses off for years, finally collected some paychecks and had some fun. You would do the same thing. Some bands work, some bands don't. BTW Sherman Oaks isn't exactly luxury office space. It's not like they were smack in the middle of Hollywood or anything.
Didn't say they should. But you can't pull the "it's a business" card while they're making awful financial decisions all over the place.
11:34 PM on 01/19/12
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Doesn't matter really, a contract is a contract. Most times they won't just let you out of it. That's true for most labels, not just DTR. If you don't fulfill the contracts terms, why would you expect to be released from it...?

So naive. So blind. Putting the label in that position and then holding the artists hostage is fucked.
11:35 PM on 01/19/12
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Did Ace fulfill the contract with Drice Thru?

If not, why would they expect to be released from it?
11:37 PM on 01/19/12
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Did Ace fulfill the contract with Drice Thru?

Drive Thru basically ceased to exist.

This is just getting ridiculous.
11:37 PM on 01/19/12
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The more important question is how many more albums did ace sell on drive-thru vs vagrant lol

How many more have Senses Fail?
11:38 PM on 01/19/12
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Didn't say they should. But you can't pull the "it's a business" card while they're making awful financial decisions all over the place.
are you their personal business manager? they took risks on bands and lost A LOT of money, they could have afforded those luxury items but instead they put their own money into the label, and didn't exactly make it out on top.
11:40 PM on 01/19/12
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Drive Thru basically ceased to exist.

This is just getting ridiculous.

I don't know anything about the Ace Enders thing, honestly. But the label still exists, and when was it that this went down? A contract is a contract, when you sign it, you should know what you're in for. That's all.
11:40 PM on 01/19/12
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How many more have Senses Fail?
lol senses fail released one EP on drive-thru, it wasn't even drive-thru's choice to let senses fail go, geffen snatched them up and then released them to vagrant.
11:42 PM on 01/19/12
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and don't forget about Hellogoodbye

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1572952
11:44 PM on 01/19/12
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Once again, there's more to that story too.
11:46 PM on 01/19/12
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drive-thru was as good as dead and still didn't release bands from their contract. which kept them from continuing as a band and making records which killed their momentum and drastically hurt them financially causing the bands to break up..how don't people see what's horribly wrong with that?
11:46 PM on 01/19/12
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I don't know anything about the Ace Enders thing, honestly. But the label still exists, and when was it that this went down? A contract is a contract, when you sign it, you should know what you're in for. That's all.
How could they fulfill a contract if the label refuses to put out new music? I'm sure the band wanted to fulfill the contract, but if the label refuses to put out any new music, regardless of if the label still "exists" then what? Do you expect Ace to not try to get out of it?
11:46 PM on 01/19/12
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People need to realize drive thru was a terribly run label. The deal they had with MCA/Geffen is viewed by the rest of the industry as a joke and one of the worst business moves of all time. Did they get lucky and have a hot streak? Absolutely. But for every band that had a semi-successful run on drive thru, 2 others got screwed by the label. They consistently handcuffed bands and held them hostage. How would you feel if your livelyhood was controlled by someone who was too bored or lazy to care?

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