Originally Posted by SuNDaYSTaR

It's probably because of the way it was recorded, but the vocals sound terrible.

It's not the video

Originally Posted by WeltallAY

? I think BTF has all original members minus one guitarist and singer.

Jared and Matt are the only original members.

Originally Posted by Captain Blood

one of the worst/lamest bands i've seen live
only went to the show for mest, the word alive, and attack attack
stayed for etf cuz my friend likes them n i'm trying to get outta the friend zone



etf are hardcore?!

I don't listen to shit like this so I don't know all the sub-genres or whatever.

Originally Posted by plns

Jared and Matt are the only original members.

Eric has been around for all of their recordings. He's close enough to being an "original" member.

Originally Posted by Fatalix

Eric has been around for all of their recordings. He's close enough to being an "original" member.

Not all of the recordings. I've been friends with Eric since we were about 13 and I remember his first show with BTF was a few months after they released their first "EP"

To be honest & fair, I think ETF is a joke. With that being said, they do have some excellent guitar work in many of their tracks. Unfortunately the final product is garbage.

Can't believe how much I hate these guys now. Shame as their earlier, Ronnie-led, stuff is great. Also can I just say, these guys supported FFAF late last year, and they were boring as hell live.

These guys have never been good.

Fact.

what happened to craig's voice? i actually enjoyed this war is ours album, but everything since then has been pretty rough and craig use to be able to sing live even if the songs were bad. the bass player sounded better than he does on this recording.

horrible and boring

extremely boring song, their first release with craig was alright at best, but now i dont see any appeal at all. honestly dont know why theyd continue as etf.