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07:44 PM on 09/17/12 
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birdman
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elaborate a bit more on your discernment between the two please

Look at it this way...with all of the state and federal social programs out there, there is no reason why a child shouldn't get 3 meals a day, a check up once a year, medicine when they are sick, and some form of education. There is no reason why these kids shouldn't have a shot.

But it takes the parent, the adult, to have the fortitude to take care of their kid. They have to "give a fuck" so to speak. The social programs should be there to financially provide for the kid so the parent can get on track to bring the family to independency (is that a word?). A kid can get all the books, pencils, and calculators from the public school system but it takes the parent to get them to study. The taxpayers can pay for all of the groceries anyone needs but it takes the parent to make the choice between carrots or Oreos.

The point of the social programs should be that they are temporary, but almost half of welfare recipients receive assistance for 5 years.

See what I mean? If a parent is unable to do those things, they shouldn't be a parent. No amount of money from the taxpayers is going to do shit for that kid unless they have good parents. The parents that are on assistance and keep having kids...come on?!?!

So let's make a deal as a society, we are going to help you kids out because they don't deserve to be thrown to the side, and at the same time acknowledge that the parent(s) need to start being more responsible and not fuck up, or have more kids while they already asking society to pitch in for the first one.

I feel bad for the kids mostly, not the parents. They are the adults, they are supposed to be the responsible ones.
08:27 PM on 09/17/12 
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Look at it this way...with all of the state and federal social programs out there, there is no reason why a child shouldn't get 3 meals a day, a check up once a year, medicine when they are sick, and some form of education. There is no reason why these kids shouldn't have a shot.

But it takes the parent, the adult, to have the fortitude to take care of their kid. They have to "give a fuck" so to speak. The social programs should be there to financially provide for the kid so the parent can get on track to bring the family to independency (is that a word?). A kid can get all the books, pencils, and calculators from the public school system but it takes the parent to get them to study. The taxpayers can pay for all of the groceries anyone needs but it takes the parent to make the choice between carrots or Oreos.

The point of the social programs should be that they are temporary, but almost half of welfare recipients receive assistance for 5 years.

See what I mean? If a parent is unable to do those things, they shouldn't be a parent. No amount of money from the taxpayers is going to do shit for that kid unless they have good parents. The parents that are on assistance and keep having kids...come on?!?!

So let's make a deal as a society, we are going to help you kids out because they don't deserve to be thrown to the side, and at the same time acknowledge that the parent(s) need to start being more responsible and not fuck up, or have more kids while they already asking society to pitch in for the first one.

I feel bad for the kids mostly, not the parents. They are the adults, they are supposed to be the responsible ones.

At least a fellow Georgian doesn't rely on welfare to raise her child when a cable network is paying them a goat load of money for their hard work because of all of the ad revenue/public awareness they bring in.

08:30 PM on 09/17/12 
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At least a fellow Georgian doesn't rely on welfare to raise her child when a cable network is paying them a goat load of money for their hard work because of all of the ad revenue/public awareness they bring in.


This is a perfect example, now they have money right? Still a shitty parent.
08:32 PM on 09/17/12 
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This is a perfect example, now they have money right? Still a shitty parent.

Yes, they have money. They earned it.
05:20 AM on 09/18/12 
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The parents that are on assistance and keep having kids...come on?!?!

i said welfare queen stereotype aside.

anyway, i don't think income is a reliable indicator of how good or bad a parent someone is. furthermore, children who grow up in wealthy households are more likely than anybody to have a entitlement mindset than ones who grew up around the poverty line.
07:34 AM on 09/18/12 
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At least a fellow Georgian doesn't rely on welfare to raise her child when a cable network is paying them a goat load of money for their hard work because of all of the ad revenue/public awareness they bring in.

at 50 seconds I literally thought the girl was having a seizure. There's got to be a gif for that.
12:50 PM on 09/18/12 
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at 50 seconds I literally thought the girl was having a seizure. There's got to be a gif for that.



preeeety sure this is the same girl
06:55 AM on 10/04/12 
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Filling in my write in ballot right now. Voted for Johnson.
08:01 AM on 10/04/12 
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Write in? I thought he was on the ballot in all 50 states?
08:03 AM on 10/04/12 
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Write in? I thought he was on the ballot in all 50 states?

Early voting. He is on the ballot. He'd have to write anyone in though.
08:04 AM on 10/04/12 
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Oh, I never understood how early balloting worked. Who qualifies for that?
08:09 AM on 10/04/12 
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Write in? I thought he was on the ballot in all 50 states?
by "write in" i mean my early paper ballot i got in the mail. He's 4th on the ballot behind Thomas Robert Stevens of the Objectivist's Party.
03:32 AM on 10/09/12 
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my vote
11:23 PM on 10/17/12 
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Write in? I thought he was on the ballot in all 50 states?
Actually he's not on the Ballot in Michigan. We have some stupid law that doesn't allow candidates to run for a party's nomination if they ran for a different party during the primary.
12:16 AM on 10/18/12 
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Gary will be on Red Eye at 3 am EST, 12 am PST. I'm interested to hear what he has to say about yesterday's debate.



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