both bands are so fucking bad. to see the guy from the staten island Vice write "we do everything we can around the clock to push our band", and then to hear the songs he comes out with, I don't believe a fucking word of that.
at least the dude from Ohio is upfront that he doesn't give a shit. either way, i'll be at that show in the fall, with a camera.
I know Vice NY personally. They are some of my good friends who work their asses off to try to make the band work.