Not ashamed to say that "Wires" is one of my favorite scene-ish albums ever. I think they don't suck as much as people say, but they've definitely gone downhill. I feel like they have a lot of potential if they ditch the chugging/stupid heavy guitars that all scene metalcore bands use these days.
Agreed, that album is a classic IMO. They out on a GREAT live show. The drummer and screamer/bassist add alot and have great stage presence.