Originally Posted by Ban4HayleysTits

Never really heard gunz before but this was hard to listen, he laughs way too much. Kinda reminded me of those overly upbeat morning talk shows. Oh boy here comes the hate

I just wanted to know what the beef was with Derek

Totally thought the same....

In the interview he mentions how none of them had an older brother to look up to musically wise... I thought Nate's brother Matt (from the short-lived band Endor, which was amazing) was older.

It's weird hearing about how the band didn't like Derek so much... really thought he was a good friend of theirs, at least it seemed so whenever I'd be around them.


points for whoever knows the guy in the background.

Originally Posted by chrisstahl

I remember a post about Endor A LONG time ago and I remember listening to the song and freaking loving it. Only heard it once, I'm gonna check those myspace tunes and see if I recognize it.

I got the EP if you want it.

Also, the dude is the singer from Counterfit.

It was/is the lead singer of Counterfit.