I've always enjoyed this band but I could see why one wouldn't be into their debut EP and LP. That said, I don't see why people here did not enjoy Suicide a season yet liked There Is...which was really a continuation of SS. They're not that different in sound and I feel like if you like one of the two then there's no reason why you should hate the other.
you nailed it. There Is... sounded like a serious and more focused version of Suicide Season, though it was a bit repetitive. too bad they're still the most hated metalcore band.