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09:24 AM on 01/08/13 
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* sigh * i'm on AJ's side but i won't get into that argument with you guys, it's pointless.
but here's some info on what happened after
http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jon...ducer-cry.html
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Radio host Alex Jones says his CNN confrontation with host Piers Morgan last night was so volatile that one of the producers of the show burst into tears during the commercial break.
According to Jones, the fact that the showdown became so out of control and off-script overwhelmed CNN staffers and sent them into a tailspin, including Piers Morgan Tonight producer Rachel Burstein, who began to shed tears.
Jones was supposed to appear in a third segment on the show to debate lawyer Alan Dershowitz, but CNN managers and Morgan himself were so outraged at his refusal to play ball that they changed the format of the whole program on a whim.
After the second segment, Morgan told Jones, “You’re done,” to which Jones responded by accusing Morgan of chickening out of the confrontation.
“We will defeat you,” Jones told Morgan, to which Morgan responded by snickering.
Jones said he also confronted Dershowitz on his support for creating warrants that would allow police and security services to torture suspects, adding that Dershowitz was not interested in debating Jones.
09:27 AM on 01/08/13 
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Also Infowars is down right now.which it never is. DDOS?
09:39 AM on 01/08/13 
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More the way they present it. They have to be all EXTREME about everything. Yes, you can be passionate about this but stop trying to shove your beliefs down our throats instead of explaining yourselves. Jones presents some great facts but he needs to be a little more level headed if you get what I'm saying. If they didn't look and sound like wackos when they present this information, I think more people would latch onto what they're saying.
Alot of his listeners/readers have been complaining about how he and ventura do this for years. But we keep listening because gives out really good info once you take the time to research it yourself.
09:42 AM on 01/08/13 
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Dear JoshKilpatrickL and thursday727, people like you are the reason why the rest of the world thinks so little of America. What I got from watching that video is that Alex Jones likes to play the "I'M A LOUD, DUMB, FAT, AMERICAN. HEAR ME ROAR! SECOND AMENDMENT" card a lot.
yeah ok
these are all Alex Jones readers in YOUR country btw
10:03 AM on 01/08/13 
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I tried listening to Jones's show and it's a little overwhelming to say the least haha. I did enjoy him in those interviews with Joe Rogan though. I think if Alex Jones smoked as much pot as Rogan and mellowed out a bit, I'd become a regular listener.
I've been getting into Adam Kokesh lately he sounds like more you style.
06:10 PM on 01/09/13 
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I'm just glad AJ actually confronted him about the phone hacking scandal and him getting fired from The Daily News for printing fake stories.
06:59 PM on 01/09/13 
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People may not like his fervor, or his particular message, but infowars does wonderful work spreading information and speaking against institutional corruption in the government. We need people like him to say what people wish not to here, and say things that the government doesn't want civilians to hear.
Agreed.
07:10 PM on 01/09/13 
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You would think that if "government' was oh so powerful, they would have wiped out Alex Jones long ago before he was influencing millions of people.
There's conspiracies about this.
A lot of people find it odd that Bill Cooper was murdered by police shortly after 9/11 but Alex wasn't touched.
He was more influential and popular than Alex before he was killed.
08:14 PM on 01/09/13 
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You keep talking about "the government." What does that mean? Who is that?
This is from an Alex Jones documentary.
The Burger King analogy answers your question well i believe.
05:50 AM on 01/10/13 
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But as far as Alex goes. I like the info he gives out and there's a lot of stuff i would not know if weren't for him but as a person i think he's a egotistical asshole that doesn't want anyone in the "liberty" movement to be as big as he is and makes somewhat reasonable people who share the sames views look insane .Leading a lot of people to think he's part of a modern day cointelpro operation.
i'm not sure about that but i've been saying for awhile the whole "liberty" "truth" "conspiracy" movement needs a better spokesperson.

Here's video of him pretty much taking over another groups reasonable protest who are allowing multiple people to speak by yelling and ranting by himself into a megaphone. and then blatantly lies about it on his show the next day claiming that they were disrupting his protest.
09:27 AM on 01/11/13 
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Maybe Bill Cooper wasn't a government hit?
I'm not saying it was , I don't really believe that , i mean it's not impossible but i'm just saying some people do find it odd he's dead and alex isn't.
Cooper hated Alex and pretty much said Jones is a fearmonger and an alarmist and is either intentionally or unintenionally working against the "movement".
09:34 AM on 01/11/13 
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So Alex Jones killed Bill Cooper?
09:03 AM on 01/14/13 
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So, this was a protest he was apparently "joining"?

If I had a problem with what those people were saying, and wanted to discredit their movement and neutralise their effect, I would send in this guy with a megaphone.

It's perfect really. They can't argue with him because he's saying the same things, and his effect is to make them all (himself included) look like maniacs and not rational human beings, thus making it much harder if not impossible to communicate their ideas to other rational human beings. Much more effective then sending someone in to argue counterpoint.


edit: aaaand if I wanted to do that on a national/international scale, I put this guy on CNN with a megaphone..
I actually figured him out when i realized he uses techniques he teaches about and accuses other people of , like "learned helplessness" and "cognitive dissonance" the latter which he accused David Icke of with the whole laying the truth out and then discrediting it with the whole "lizard people" thing.
08:49 AM on 02/23/13 
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thought some of you guys might find this interview interesting. This is one of the best interviews i've seen Alex do.



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