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08:48 AM on 01/08/13 
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Some of the stuff Jones said makes sense but i'm pretty sure some high up people are mad at some of the stuff he gave away and that he called them out on their sponsors, but he needs to calm down while talking.

uhm what
09:14 AM on 01/08/13 
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Did you not watch the video?

I did. I'm just not sure what you think this guy "gave away," there were a lot of made up statistics and the ones that are real aren't secret and can be accessed by anyone with internet. What am I missing?
09:54 AM on 01/08/13 
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When he mentioned that there have been Prozac pills that can lead to people going crazy and committing mass murders/suicides, I looked it up after the video to see if he was telling the truth and turns out, Anna Blake Tracy Ph.D., researched 32 murders/suicides that involved women and children and out of the 32 cases, 24 of the women were taking Prozac or other SSIR pills.

http://ssristories.com/show.php?item=410

Yeah but the thing with all that is that
1. he's on TV to talk about gun control, not Prozac (this should be the end, but I'll keep going)
2. the side effects of Prozac are written right on the bottle and online, it's not a secret.
3. 24 cases of someone being on Prozac before committing murder/suicide in 12 years! is not anywhere near equitable to 11,478 gun deaths per year (Jones' stat)
4. Scientifically, at this time connecting Prozac to murders/suicide is a ridiculously flimsy connection since 24 million people per year take Prozac or other anti-depressants, and Jones points to 24 cases reported from 2000 (if that's the study he's using, I'm sure it's not).
5. 60% to 80% of people who take Prozac or other anti-depressants say they're helpful and report no feelings of depression/urges to kill/etc.
6. Suicide is not the #1 cause of death in the US

Basically this is all false equivalency at it's finest.
10:54 AM on 01/08/13 
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Right, CNN was upset with his revelatory statements and not the way he behaved himself.

It was almost like he suddenly flipped a switch, one second he was going nuts, the next second he was going SUPER NUTS
11:41 AM on 01/08/13 
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Like I said before, it's not that Jones is an idiot, or super nuts, it's that he plays up everything for his audience. He's a business man. He knows that people are fed up with the way the government does things, and he is going to take advantage of that and make money off of it.

Some of what he says is true (he also embellishes quite a bit) but he presents everything with such fervor that unless you already agree with him, you are going to think he's crazy... which is fine with him, because he's only targeting himself toward those who are already on the "conspiracy theory" side.

He is an idiot. Do you have any idea how many gun advocates would jump to be able to go on CNN and state their case sensibly? Instead he flops around like a lunatic and talks about Prozac, 9/11, CNN's mysterious sponsors, redcoats, etc. He's a complete moron who just likes to hear himself talk. If he was actually smart (or actually cared about what he says he does - I'm not sure which isn't true), he'd act like an adult. He's just an entertainer who found a nice niche.
11:46 AM on 01/08/13 
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He may come off as an idiot, but he's making tons of money doing it.

He's not stupid. He knows what he's doing.

Sure there are tons of gun advocates that would jump at the chance to defend their stance on CNN, but CNN's not stupid either, they are going for ratings, and I bet you lots of people watched Jones, and lots of people would watch him again if he came on again... it's like a spectacle.

I added a little more after you responded, basically touching on exactly what you're saying here ha. He's a clown, nothing more.
12:12 PM on 01/08/13 
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It's funny because I've even heard the theory that Jones is really working for the NWO and they have him act like a lunatic just to discredit everything he talks about...

I don't believe that, but I think it's an interesting thought... you could keep going with that though... I've heard the same thing about Noam Chomsky, and he's not a lunatic

Yeah I mean you know my views on the existence of the NWO, but this wouldn't be a bad plan on their part if it did exist.



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