Originally Posted by ChaplainTappman

great post, guy

yes, let's dispense with trials and hearings and throw minors in jail because you think that will solve anything


This is not for that. He hasn't been charged with anything in connection to Jojo's death as far as I'm aware.

Him and his "crew" are all of the age 18 and early 20's. Also they are known to gang members..which at moment in Chicago gang violence has been becoming a huge problem. While granted its a problem in other states.Its a stupid huge problem in Chicago.

Originally Posted by ChaplainTappman

great post, guy

Please. He is absolutely everything that's wrong with hip-hop and makes terrible trap music that represents the worst of a city that's suffering pretty hard right now.

Originally Posted by Coverbydesign

Him and his "crew" are all of the age 18 and early 20's. Also they are known to gang members..which at moment in Chicago gang violence has been becoming a huge problem. While granted its a problem in other states.Its a stupid huge problem in Chicago.

Considering he was 17 earlier this year I'm going to go out on a limb and say he wasn't the youngest. You're being ridiculous. The point is you don't just lock people up. Court cases and probation isn't "bs".

Originally Posted by Gaugzilla

Please. He is absolutely everything that's wrong with hip-hop and makes terrible trap music that represents the worst of a city that's suffering pretty hard right now.

So we should dismiss his work because he is a product of his environment? I would say the fact he's so representative of this culture provides greater meaning to his work than would be present otherwise. Disregarding an artist because they make music about their life - largely accurately in this case, I might add - is counterproductive.

Originally Posted by TheRealJohnOC

Probation hearing? That's that shit I don't like!

Damn you. Beat me to the punch.

Originally Posted by ChaplainTappman

Considering he was 17 earlier this year I'm going to go out on a limb and say he wasn't the youngest. You're being ridiculous. The point is you don't just lock people up. Court cases and probation isn't "bs".


So we should dismiss his work because he is a product of his environment? I would say the fact he's so representative of this culture provides greater meaning to his work than would be present otherwise. Disregarding an artist because they make music about their life - largely accurately in this case, I might add - is counterproductive.

If by hard worker getting caught selling choke and weed.Then sure he is a damn fine worker. Really why are you defending this pile of trash.

Originally Posted by Sophos

people actin like keef doesn't make absolute BANGERS

This. I used to HATE Keef for his beef w/ Lupe and that fact that Young Chop could produce his ASS off. Now that Keef and Lupe are good, I love the kid's songs. They make me laugh.

^If we wrote off every rapper who sold drugs, we'd lose a lot of good ones. That Twitter incident, however, is pretty bad.

Originally Posted by Coverbydesign

If by hard worker getting caught selling choke and weed.Then sure he is a damn fine worker. Really why are you defending this pile of trash.

...pile of trash...?

Originally Posted by Coverbydesign

If by hard worker getting caught selling choke and weed.Then sure he is a damn fine worker. Really why are you defending this pile of trash.

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Originally Posted by ChaplainTappman

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Why are you defending him?

Originally Posted by Gaugzilla

Please. He is absolutely everything that's wrong with hip-hop and makes terrible trap music that represents the worst of a city that's suffering pretty hard right now.

there's nothing wrong with hip-hop. if you think otherwise you are senile and jaded.

Originally Posted by ChaseTx

^If we wrote off every rapper who sold drugs, we'd lose a lot of good ones. That Twitter incident, however, is pretty bad.

sure is, but he's a product of his environment. not excusing his behavior but it has little to do with his actual music other than gun violence being a recurring theme, but most people who enjoy him (including those of us in this thread defending his music) take it for what it is: mindless entertainment with some seriously impeccable production.

Originally Posted by Coverbydesign

If by hard worker getting caught selling choke and weed.Then sure he is a damn fine worker. Really why are you defending this pile of trash.

my best friend sells coke and weed, is he a pile of trash?

Originally Posted by Sophos

my best friend sells coke and weed, is he a pile of trash?

Was making a joke on the whole drug dealing part. I know people who sell drugs. I was calling Keef a pile of trash for the whole twitter incident tweeting after Lil Jojo died..Among other things I sure he has done.

Originally Posted by Coverbydesign

Was making a joke on the whole drug dealing part. I know people who sell drugs. I was calling Keef a pile of trash for the whole twitter incident tweeting after Lil Jojo died..Among other things I sure he has done.

should've specified, it's really easy for people to draw conclusions from posts like those.