These guys go through way too many lineup changes.

Rumor has it the OG vocalist is coming back. Not that anyone cares.

I'm actually a huge fan of this band. Changes is still my favorite, and Relentless was great too. Still liked Backburner even though it was incredibly generic, and the new one wasn't THAT bad. Even if the original vocalist comes back, the ex-drummer who is now in TGI wrote all of the tunes. At this point, it looks bleak though.

That would be sweet if Chad came back.

I've always boughten their releases but it's time to hang it up. For me Relentless>Changes>Back Burner>Wasted Youth>FTFD EP. Last 2 releases were ruined by Tom Denney's horrendous production.

Originally Posted by WeltallAY

I've always boughten their releases but it's time to hang it up. For me Relentless>Changes>Back Burner>Wasted Youth>FTFD EP. Last 2 releases were ruined by Tom Denney's horrendous production.

backburner and wasted youth were just horrible. production couldn't save those albums.

band was shit after relentless anyway

i don't see chad coming back. if he does then i guess i'd give them another go, but i think they should just get a new singer, change their sound a little and rename the band if not break up.

Originally Posted by dtomczak

backburner and wasted youth were just horrible. production couldn't save those albums.

I don't think you understand what production is. But yes those albums sucked

for the fallen cares

Originally Posted by WeltallAY

I've always boughten their releases but it's time to hang it up. For me Relentless>Changes>Back Burner>Wasted Youth>FTFD EP. Last 2 releases were ruined by Tom Denney's horrendous production.

Agree with you. I mean, personally I've enjoyed Relentless and Changes more than WY and BB. But I'm pretty sure that both their last two records, with a decent production, would have been better, at least more enjoybale.

Originally Posted by megajosh20

I don't think you understand what production is. But yes those albums sucked

I was referring to the quality of the recording of the last two albums, specifically the mixing and mastering. It just sounded muddy and dull.

I don't see them bouncing back from this...some of the nicest people in the business tho