[Jason Tate]

Originally Posted by birdman

oh so now we can compare guns to cars again?

No, we compare different rights and responsibilities to two different sets of the populace.

Citizens are not police. We carry different rights and responsibilities.

[_veges_]

Seems like all fairly common sense stuff to me, but there's going to be a ridiculous amount of pushback from the right

[ChaseTx]

Originally Posted by birdman

oh so now we can compare guns to cars again?

That's not what I did. Police get to do a lot of things that civilians can't do in the course of carrying out their job. And criminals are most likely not going to attack you with an assault rifle. If they do, it's going to be in public, where it would be impossible for you to carry one concealed for your own protection.

Originally Posted by Jason Tate

I think it's still underdone. Why do we require such extensive training to fly, or drive, and not guns?

Driving is a better comparison. I guess I just imagine flying is much harder than driving or handling a gun properly.

[brook183]

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

[Jason Tate]

Originally Posted by ChaseTx

That's not what I did. Police get to do a lot of things that civilians can't do in the course of carrying out their job. And criminals are most likely not going to attack you with an assault rifle. If they do, it's going to be in public, where it would be impossible for you to carry one concealed for your own protection.


Driving is a better comparison. I guess I just imagine flying is much harder than driving or handling a gun properly.

Meh, I think it should be hard to get registered. We cracked down on piloting licensing and all that after 9/11.

[Jason Tate]

I'm arrogant ... even I don't think people wanna kill me or my family in the same way they do the President.

[Chrisj182]

America, you have the right to "bear arms" but does it ever say in your constitution that you're allowed ammunition?

[birdman]

Ok I got 5 quotes and I don't want to respond to everyone of them so I will just say this.

I don't believe that someone should be able to get a conceal carry for an assault weapon, but I don't think they should be banned either.

No, nobody needs one. But nobody needs a production race car either. Despite them not typically being street legal, someone may own a race car, work on it, mod it, tow it to a track, and race it as a sport or hobby. Why shouldn't someone be able to keep an assault weapon in their house and go to a gun range to shoot?

We are talking about law-abiding citizens here. The likelihood of an owner of an assault weapon going nuts and shooting up a mall is the same weather the person is a private citizen, a police officer, or a member of the military.

So what's the problem? I don't want guns in the hands of psychos and criminals either. But seeing as I am neither, I should retain that right.

[loveisdead]

I wonder how many people died from race cars in the last year.

[birdman]

If I am in a mall that someone decides to start shooting up. I sure as shit am not relying on the armed security guard, who is likely an ex-high school football player who failed out of junior college, to help. I hope that there is one of those blasted "gun nuts" there with a conceal carry.

[nowFace]

Originally Posted by birdman

That's always a tried a true response to a legitimate question.

If cops have assault weapons, and criminals have assault weapons...then why should I be denied the right to own one to protect myself and my family?

I have said it a million times, I don't want to live in a country where the only two groups of people with these guns are criminals and the government.

I'm pretty sure shotguns are considered hunting guns....There pretty useful against threats to your family.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Originally Posted by birdman

If I am in a mall that someone decides to start shooting up. I sure as shit am not relying on the armed security guard, who is likely an ex-high school football player who failed out of junior college, to help. I hope that there is one of those blasted "gun nuts" there with a conceal carry.

Why don't you just get a concealed carry permit yourself and remain armed while out in public? Do you have the mental capacity to act quickly when witnessing potential danger, take out your firearm in time, accurately aim it at the threat and pull the trigger in time before anyone is else harmed?

[ChaseTx]

The problem is that there's no way to keep all the non-law-abiding citizens from getting them. Furthermore, I feel like if you're looking for assault weapons, you're up to no good.

[birdman]

Originally Posted by loveisdead

I wonder how many people died from race cars in the last year.

That's irrelevant. Unless of course you only measured gun deaths which were accidental and occurred outside the boundaries of the law by a citizen who was licensed to use the weapon.