To degrade oneself

Originally Posted by Dustin Harkins

This news aggravates me. Why can't he make music that won't be ruined by Craig's voice?

He shouldn't associate with this band at all.

Originally Posted by Jack Appleby

Meh - the Chiodos guys are actually pretty solid musicians.
On Thomas' level? I'd say no - but this could produce some interesting results, as long as whoever produces works wonders on Craig's voice.

It's not really a matter of their musical ability. I think Chiodos is a mess of a band, Craig is overrated and Thomas could make better music on his own or with an entirely new band.

Oh and when I say Thomas should make a new band, I dont mean one with a terrible terrible name.

Originally Posted by SmeezyBeezy

Whatchoo talkin about? This is good for both sides.

Fall of Troy was good. Not a fan of Chiodos.

Originally Posted by SmeezyBeezy

I know for a fact you loved their first album haha. Things obviously changed afterwards.. But here's to hoping they'll return to form.

Oh i no doubt loved the first album long ago - saw them at 7th street in fact. Anything after was...no good.

Originally Posted by Mattylikesfilms

I would recommend giving Illuminaudio another spin dude. It's such a great record and a damn shame that the band couldn't work things out with it.

Yeah frankly I'm not really interested in this type of music anymore unless it really blows me away

Originally Posted by SmeezyBeezy

Forgot to tell you. I went to Burger Records and the singer from Gap Dream was chillin there haha.

No...gd you

Most definitely agree with Jack here: that logic is baseless