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09:10 AM on 07/08/13
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Still don't know how anyone can think this is their weakest album
I wouldn't worry about ol thoms opinions
09:39 AM on 07/08/13
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Every band has this problem. Very few completely change their sound.

this couldn't be further from the truth.
10:00 AM on 07/08/13
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Cool statement, bro. Care to back it up?
do you want me to name an endless amount of bands that have changed their style during their career?
10:04 AM on 07/08/13
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That's cool. I'm sure you'll name a few, but I'm just saying the majority of this scene and what people come to this site for don't.

Yet, the songs TDS write are still good. I don't get why someone would be disappointed with more of the same when all they do is bitch for it when the band does change.

And most the time it's slightly at best.
if you would've said "this scene" i would have agreed with you. but you flat out said "every band" lol
10:06 AM on 07/08/13
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Haha okay my bad. But yeah, this scene.
im also on your side in that its not always a bad thing. i dont fault TDS for it (yet) but there will always be the inevitable point of diminishing returns for bands like this if they don't change things up.
11:28 AM on 07/08/13
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That song is basically unlistenable because my eyes roll so hard it hurts my head.

But that's another debate entirely, about a different topic, that I don't feel like having in this thread.
yeah that song is horrible
11:40 AM on 07/08/13
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the argument "its better than a lot of other stuff" is elementary
11:47 AM on 07/08/13
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Why? Because it's quite true.
because the record should be judged on its own merits other than simply looking whats around it and saying "well, its better than all of THIS stuff so its a good record." one could JUST as easily say "well, its not as good as all of THIS stuff, so its a bad record." its completely and utterly pointless to make such statements.
12:46 PM on 07/08/13
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what is wrong with some of you people
01:13 PM on 07/08/13
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Transatlanticism is the album that does this perfectly, in my opinion.
for all the shit handcuffs gets, i think TDAG does it perfectly too.
01:24 PM on 07/08/13
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I think every Kanye album does that really well.
especially Yeezus.
12:40 PM on 07/09/13
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the idea that music written by someone other than the performer is inferior is an archaic, immature belief.
12:50 PM on 07/09/13
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I don't find that sorta music necessarily worse but its hard for me to not enjoy how personal and the hard work of a group that wrote the lyrics themselves. Thats just my opinion but all my favorite albums were written by the band and even more so the songs told narratives and/or were very personal. I mean nothing wrong with having someone write your songs but its hard to get emotional songs that way.
no its not. emotion hinges on the performance just as much as the words. you're not gonna sit here and tell me johnny cash's cover of "hurt" isn't emotional.
01:11 PM on 07/09/13
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Not everything has to be an argument. This time around it was just my opinion based the perspective I get from listening to music I enjoy. Feel free to have a different opinion.

i have a different opinion and i expressed it. dont get so upset about it.
01:19 PM on 07/09/13
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Refer to my last post but at the same time no. Thats not what I said at all. Honestly what I was talking about had very little to do with covers at all. You're not gonna change anyone's opinion here but I respect and see where your coming from and at the same time feel you did not 100% understand what I meant. Nothing is absolute. This is just generally how I feel about things and my favorite bands, songs, and albums are predominantly artist written with the occasional co-artist who is a close friend to the band.
the attitude "you're not going to change my opinion" hinders discussion, but whatever, if you dont want to have a discussion about this thats not my problem.

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