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04:22 PM on 07/11/13
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Need to spend more time with this but I pretty much agree.

I've never been a huge Jay-Z fan aside from the hits...what's the best album to start with? The Black Album?
reasonable doubt, the blueprint, and the black album are the three you MUST listen to. id go in the order i listed them. all three are three of my favorite hip-hop albums of all time and the black album was one of the first in the genre i heard.
04:59 PM on 07/11/13
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Review could have done without those first two paragraphs but otherwise very well written.
yeahhhhh i probably could have gone a different route but ive been told a few times by people that i dont like this album because its not yeezus and i felt it necessary to drive the point home WHY this is disappointing and that it doesnt have to do with me wanting another yeezus. probably a little indulgent for a review but, what are you gonna do haha, i had fun writing it
07:29 AM on 07/12/13
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Wonderful review, I completely agree with everything you've said. I wasn't a fan of Yeezus, but this record is ridiculously boring.
thank you!

Good review, and I think the introductory parts about Yeezus are completely justified. One artist is pushing the envelope and innovating while the other is comfortable stagnating in the same old territory. One thing I would add to the comparison, though, has to do with length. Kanye has learned to make a concise and consistent album, and I think part of the reason Yeezus succeeds is that it's this lean, relentless burst of abrasive aggression. Even MBDTF, which is nothing if not epic and sprawling, feels a lot more condensed than Kanye's older album because he learned to ditch the skits and the interludes (mostly) and the filler and make something that you actually want to experience in one sitting.

This album, on the other hand, just keeps fucking going. It's one thing that the songs aren't that good to begin with. I could have done with an album of disposable Jay-Z lyrics if every song had a great beat and a killer guest spot (which several of them do), but the in between tracks where it's just him are where this album really falters. I looked down somewhere around "Heaven" thinking, "shit, this thing has gotta be almost over," but there were still seven more songs.

yeah, the length of this thing is what made me dread going back for repeated listens to hammer out this review....i had the same problem with the new wale album. halfway through im begging for it to end only to realize i've still got 7-8 songs to go
07:34 AM on 07/12/13
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Biggest disappointment since ... well, I guess the other Roc Nation album that just came out.
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07:58 AM on 07/12/13
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I really hope you don't get paid to write these reviews...this album lacks substance, really?! do me a favor and go to rapgenius.com and look up the meanings to his raps on MCHG. There are so many double meanings/historical references on this album it's nuts. You probably just don't get it at face value but there IS meaning and emotion behind the record. And Tom Ford goes hard.
he can drop as many historical references and double meanings as he want, that doesn't mean he's saying anything of substantial value
08:09 AM on 07/12/13
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Dude the fact that you gave arguably one of the best hip hop records of the year a 5/10 is just disrespectful. Just because he raps about things you can't associate with doesn't mean you have to hate on it. Ya, I don't have a Picasso or any clothes from Tom Ford, but fuck, I would love to! Peronally it gives me motivation to work harder in life to eventually achieve those grandiose things he raps about.
I'm not hating, it's my opinion. I personally find the subject matter boring and uninteresting. I'm glad you like the album, but I don't. Doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful.
08:39 AM on 07/12/13
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He has to save face for the 100 he gave to Kanye....
Not sure what you mean by this.
08:46 AM on 07/12/13
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Length of hip hop albums is one thing that has always got me. I don't need 15-20 tracks. Just give me 10 awesome ones.

I need to listen to this and decide for myself. I'm only expecting to like a few tracks anyways as I'm a fairly casual fan
yeah, sometimes long albums work but a lot of times it works against them. I think that's one of the best things yeezus has going for it, it's short length
11:14 AM on 07/12/13
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born sinner discussion?

02:26 PM on 07/12/13
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If you take a shot whenever Kanye and Yeezus are discussed and you'll blackout before you even reach the part of the review when MCHG is even discussed.

I understand that you don't think the album is good, but comparing/expecting it to be Yeezus simply because of the circumstances at hand (relationship between two artists, and time in which released) is childish. Everyone knows the albums came out close together, you don't need to spend two paragraphs talking about it. Christ.
I don't think you even read those two paragraphs based on what you think I'm saying with them. "Christ."
02:27 PM on 07/12/13
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Like god damn I said like twice I wasn't expecting a yeezus. Read before you make stupid comments
04:38 PM on 07/12/13
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look, guy, you disagree with my review, its okay, move on
04:53 PM on 07/12/13
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all of our reviews need to be completely objective and unified in length and content and style



the rolling stone of scene music.


(rolling stone reviews are a fucking joke and they go by the standards you're demanding that we do. im mocking you)
04:57 PM on 07/12/13
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No, it's really not. I'd say 90% of paying websites make word count apart of their editorial guidelines. Don't act like I'm suggesting you sacrifice your first born.
we arent a paying website. jason gives reviewers the freedom to review how they want because he believes in our writing. you dont, whatever, but a lot of people really like the way we do things. sorry that you're the outlier.

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