11:07 PM on 09/08/13
Great, great review.
Mentioned this in a thread somewhere, but one thing I think is important to mention about this record - it doesn't 'replace' Separation for me in any way. I love both records, for different reasons.
The opposite is true of Thrice's final LPs. I really enjoyed Beggars - but when Major/Minor released, Beggars became...less. The latter record stayed within the world of the former, so much so that it almost made Beggars irrelevant to me (that's an exaggeration, but I certainly listen to it much less now).
Separation and The Things We Think We're Missing hit different notes for me. The earlier album is more raw and unrefined, while the new is more polished and explores the more bombastic sides of B&C. Both will continually receive regular plays, and I'm not sure I have a favorite between them.
Hopefully that made sense.
01:14 AM on 09/09/13
Stop your cheerleading Thomas. I really can't trust a single review you write because every album you review is just the most mind blowing thing you have ever listened to. Aside from trashing the Transit record, I really can't trust your opinion anymore. Seriously give an honest review that using pure hyperbole.
I think this is sarcasm.
I hope this is sarcasm?
01:23 AM on 09/09/13
Idk I wish it was. Every time I read one of his reviews it's just too much.
But that's just my opinion. All his reviews are so positive, it kinda ruined "Greatest Generation" for me.
Yea I know I'm being a dick.
Edit:same for "handwritten"
I mean, when you don't have much time to review, you write about what you're passionate about. Naturally, you're more likely to review music you enjoy that music you don't enjoy.
If he was still doing 50+ reviews a year and they were positive, then sure, I hear you - but he's written six this year, with one fairly negative (Transit, which you mentioned), and two N/A scores. I don't see why other positive reviews invalidate his opinion.
Also, if that thought process is true, I'm in trouble too.
09:04 AM on 09/09/13
I want to backtrack on the word "positive", its really the hyperbole bothers me. BUT, if hes only writing 6-8 reviews a year, why is he getting the "high profile" reviews? i know a lot of people (including myself) that want to hear this record, and these reviews are the ones going into metacritic and the like. so why isint a more experienced reviewer (like yourself) taking the lead on these? i get that hes passionate about what he writes, i wouldn't expect an unpaid contributor to write about crap he dosent want to listen to, but it seems strange that someone who takes only 6-8 reviews a year to write the only staff review about the most anticipated records of the year (including Generation). I get everyone has their biases (i dont think ill ever read a negative ETID review from drew, even if they did a faithful Katy Perry cover album) but some times it feels too much.
i love this site, been my #1 source for years, but when i see you guys in all the major review places, i just wish the reviews were taken more seriously.
EDIT: And how can you call TGG a N/A score? He would that record a 12 if he could of. Its my favorite album this year by far, but come on, i get when he did that with Ocean Avenue, but to do that for TGG is nonsense.
Haha, I promise that Thomas is a much more experienced reviewer than myself.
But if it's any consolation, I would have given this record the exact same score. It's an Album Of The Year contender for me, battling with Letlive and Bad Rabbits.
02:58 PM on 09/09/13
This site has generally reviewed albums more positively than most other places for as long as I can remember (I started visiting in '07). Just accept that on here a 50% is basically a big failure, 75%-80% is average and anything higher is good. Don't worry about how the reviews compare to other sites.
About accurate - similar to traditional school grading systems.
What scale do you use? Not criticizing - just curious. On MEB, we shunned scores for a long time, just because it was all people talked about.
02:59 PM on 09/09/13
i remember hearing Only Boundaries and feelling COMPELLED to write a review. That is a meaningless statement for anyone but me, obviously, but even then I had no idea how much these guys could improve.
i saw B&C play a show with someone last year (moving mountains maybe?) and hadn't really kept up with them because who has the time, but hearing them live was a pretty important moment in my musical year. And it was great and the singer sang himself ragged. but even then I had no idea how much these guys would grow.
so this album is fantastic, obviously. It's everything thomas said so wonderfully (really good review), and it does feel important to a certain extent. it makes me wish i was experiencing more of a defining life event right now, so that I could connect this album with not just a specific time, but a specific event. but instead, it will just have to be the week i listened to The Things We Think We're Missing a whole heck of a lot.
once again, this doesn't mean anything but to me, but I am proud of these guys. making music is so hard! and changing by shades of gray is also way harder than rewriting the book. and these guys are still making the same music, except with the added flair of virtuosos. they understand each other incredibly well as a band, and because of this we are treated to a group of dudes thinking as one. and the thought here is: let's do better. and they have.
I really liked all of this, and it's more or less what inspires me to contribute to AP.net.
03:15 PM on 09/09/13
I was under the impression that we use a 1-10 scale, which is not the same as a percentage scale. I can see the confusion because the percentage is still in place, but nobody uses it like that anymore
Well 1-10 = 1% - 100%. What was an average 75% for me is now a 7.5.
Do you use something different?
03:20 PM on 09/09/13
That's not how a 1-10 scale works. Have you ever seen a sporting competition that uses a 1-10? Like, in street league skateboarding a 6.8 is not a D trick, it's 1.8 above 5 which is middle of the scale. Doesn't work like a percent.
Yeah, but 1-10 in most music sites is the way I mentioned. 1-10 and 1-5 are very common in music, and both are more towards the scale I'm referring to.
So for you, what would an "average" score be?
07:25 PM on 09/09/13
So much unnecessary in this thread.
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