I think a lot of people are turned off by the vocals, I know it took me a few listens to get into it. The demos with Tillian really gave the sound a different, motif, if you will, and I know some people were stoked on that. I got over that, and saw them live in West Chester, PA, and it was so, so, sick. The musicianship alone should be enough for people to get out and see them. I also think if they were on EQ or another more-well known indie label, that they would be pushed a lot harder.